Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-20 Thread paul dove via EV
I can’t answer to that since I never used a Supercharger but my assumption was that this number ($8.10 see photo) was the price to full. Tesla says they do not profit on the electricity. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2018, at 6:32 AM, Willie via EV wrote: > > > >> On 10/17/2018 10:02 P

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-19 Thread Gary Neal via EV
To: gaildlu...@earthlink.net; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: paul dove Subject: Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!] Mid range battery model 3 now available https://3.tesla.com/model3/design?#payment Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 20

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-18 Thread paul dove via EV
Mid range battery model 3 now available https://3.tesla.com/model3/design?#payment Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Gail Lucas via EV wrote: > > Mark, I agree 100%. Twenty years ago when I was doing "show and tell" with my > Citicars and conversions I could only dream that a

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-18 Thread Gail Lucas via EV
Mark, I agree 100%. Twenty years ago when I was doing "show and tell" with my Citicars and conversions I could only dream that a car like the Tesla would appear and revolutionize the whole EV industry. The EV1 looked promising but we all know what happened to it. I have ridden in a Tesla and un

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-18 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Ok, thanks. I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken! - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Oct 18, 2018, at 10:15 AM, John Blair via EV wrote: > > You can check the prices on the Tesla website. It is different in different > states. Tesla prefers to charge by kWh, but some st

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-18 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
You’re absolutely correct. In most cases the negativity impacts the stock, not the product or the consumer. Despite some of legitimate comments made here about the failure to deliver on its promises, what Tesla HAS delivered is incredible. For those who find the price not affordable to them,

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-18 Thread paul dove via EV
$8.10 which would be 0.108 cents a kilowatt hr. https://www.hsvutil.org/business-service-center/business-utility-rates/ From: Rush Dougherty via EV To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Cc: Rush Dougherty Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Why I W

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-18 Thread John Blair via EV
You can check the prices on the Tesla website. It is different in different states. Tesla prefers to charge by kWh, but some states don’t allow that so they charge by the minute in two tiers depending on where you are in the charge cycle (above 60kW rate or below). In California it is 26¢/kWh

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-18 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Here's another way Tesla's or for that matter, anything, gets misaligned... somebody just repeats what somebody else told them. And in this case according to a latter post by Paul who has a Tesla - "My car says I can supercharge for 8 and change it's less than $9 for 75kw so that is like 11 ce

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-18 Thread Willie via EV
On 10/17/2018 10:02 PM, paul dove wrote: My car says I can supercharge for 8 and change it’s less than $9 for 75kw so that is like 11 cents a kilowatt. Paul, something seems amiss in those numbers. I have to assume 75kwh for "75kw". The battery capacity of a Model 3 LR is about 75kwh so y

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-17 Thread paul dove via EV
My car says I can supercharge for 8 and change it’s less than $9 for 75kw so that is like 11 cents a kilowatt. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2018, at 4:24 PM, Willie via EV wrote: > > > >> On 10/17/2018 04:07 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: >> My understanding is that the cost to use the su

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-17 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
I’ve been told $20. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Oct 17, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > > My understanding is that the cost to use the supercharger network à la carte > is relatively reasonable (price wise) when compared to buying gasoline for a > trip of a

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-17 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
Prices are posted at https://www.tesla.com/support/supercharging Some states are per kWh, others are per minute (with different rates for above or below 60 kW charging rates). Some existing cars are grandfathered into unlimited transferrable free supercharging for the life of the vehicle, dependi

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-17 Thread Willie via EV
On 10/17/2018 04:07 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: My understanding is that the cost to use the supercharger network à la carte is relatively reasonable (price wise) when compared to buying gasoline for a trip of a similar distance. Perhaps somebody with a Tesla that doesn't come with free supe

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-17 Thread Jay Summet via EV
My understanding is that the cost to use the supercharger network à la carte is relatively reasonable (price wise) when compared to buying gasoline for a trip of a similar distance. Perhaps somebody with a Tesla that doesn't come with free supercharging can report on the prices? Jay On 10/17/

Re: [EVDL] Why I Won't Buy a Tesla, Edison-Tesla Deja Vu [Free Supercharging!]

2018-10-17 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
>Instead, they gave us a somewhat cut down Model S >that doesn't get to use Superchargers for free. Nothing is "free". It is paid for within the luxury prices on the model S and X. One cannot have it both ways. If one only wants to pay the absolute minimum, then one doesn't pay for the charging