[EVDL] EVLN: BMW C Evolution ecycle is a pricey proposition that makes sense

2014-10-01 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/bmw-brings-electric-power-to-two-wheels-30612356.html BMW brings electric power to two wheels Dave Humphreys 24/09/2014 [images http://cdn3.independent.ie/incoming/article30612315.ece/df1d7/ALTERNATES/w1024/IMG_2226.JPG

[EVDL] EVLN: Kia Soul EV isn’t playing around, what they got right r:93/110mi

2014-10-01 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Kia adds Soul EV to the Canadian auto market http://www.slashgear.com/2015-kia-soul-ev-first-drive-a-new-city-car-star-24347741/ 2015 Kia Soul EV First-Drive: A new city-car star Sep 24, 2014 Chris Davies [images

Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China

2014-10-01 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
Hi, My motorcycle has 40AH GBS cells of which I use only 2 1/2 C and the cells are still doing great 3 1/2 years later. To give us some terms of reference, what does your M/C pull in amps at a steady 50mph and 70mph (if you go that fast!) and on strong acceleration? And how many miles

[EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
A copy of the form was attached to the original news item I read about this so I have read it. It doesn't say Tesla can take his car but it does say that before they would reactivate the car he had to take it to Tesla to be inspected at his expense (other sources say that Tesla says they won't

Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread David Kerzel via EV
Electrical things do not have to be listed by someone like UL. Some state and local governments may require UL (or something similar) as part of the fire and electrical code. The reason manufactures use approval services like UL is liability. Stores will often not sell things that are not

Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Al Lumas via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Mark Grasser via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Zeke Yewdall via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 1 Oct 2014 at 11:01, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: If they're happy with the inspection they'll reactive the car. Control freaks. Maybe other folks are fine with this. More power to you, no pun intended. But blast it, I already have enough things in my life that spy on me and/or restrict my

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
I think the whole thing comes down to: - who owns the car and consequently - who is responsible if there is a safety issue with the car? If the answer is: the driver, then Tesla has no right to restrict the owner from doing with the car what he wants. What if he wants to drive the car only on his

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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[EVDL] Electric Lt. Duty Trucks make $$ Dollars and Sense !!

2014-10-01 Thread Steven Lough via EV
OK ok... sorry, I'm on a VIA Kick this warm fall afternoon. Please don't think of it as a PITCH for VIA specifically, but the arguments, data, and such are for EV's in general. But here below is one of the many presentations on the Via Web site. I found the information and charts and

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
From: Mark Grasser via EV ev@lists.evdl.org Be careful buying non UL Asian inverters. A lot of them do not have a neutral to ground tie. You will find instead that the ground prong or green wire is actually tied to the center tap of the output and that NEUTRAL is 60 volts from ground and

Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Mark Grasser via EV
Jan, I agree entirely but yes, it is for real. Keep in mind that when using an inverter the ground to neutral tie is not present from the mains as you are disconnected from the mains. When the inverter is connected to the home / appliances it becomes the source of the relationship between gnd,

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
Even my 2000 Volvo V70 XC has parts like the throttle body that are flashed to the VIN of the car. Makes it impossible to use used parts. Pretty much forces you to the dealer also. Mike On October 1, 2014 4:04:24 PM MDT, Lawrence Harris via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I am afraid I side

Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Bill Dube via EV
The center tap output greatly reduces the cost of the DC-DC boost converter which is the first stage of the inverter. If you wish to tie the output neutral to ground, you must use an isolated DC-DC boost converter which costs more than a non-isolated DC-DC converter. Most folks (besides UL)

Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bill Dube via EV wrote: I can think of no modern commercial appliances that require that neutral be at ground potential. Pretty much all gas furnaces, water heaters, electric stoves, and other appliances that prove flame before they will open the main gas valve. The gas pipe is always