[EVDL] EVLN: Gompertz's 2008 Subaru Forester 4WD EV @montana.edu show

2015-04-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/msu-hosts-electric-car-show-for-earth-week/32537164
MSU hosts electric car show for Earth Week
By Shellye Leggett  [20150423]

[image  
http://www.nbcmontana.com/image/view/-/32537120/medRes/1/-/maxh/360/maxw/640/-/j2seid/-/Still0423-2-jpg.jpg
(open hood shot)
]

BOZEMAN, Mont. - On display Thursday at MSU, a group of unique vehicles for
students to admire part of a special car show as the university celebrates
Earth Week. Ron Gompertz has been driving an electric vehicle since 2006.

I've always enjoyed having unusual sports cars, vintage cars, restoring old
cars, said Gompertz.

He bought a regular Subaru in 2008 and spent two years turning it into an
electric car.

This vehicle here is a do-it-yourself Subaru designed for Montana's all
season weather and it retains the Subaru's 4-wheel drive system, but it
drives 100 percent electric battery, said Gompertz.

His car was one of a half dozen on display Thursday at the Centennial Mall
on campus at MSU.

This is not a regular car show, this is a car show only for electric
vehicles, said MSU NECO Vice President Katie Nolan.

Event organizers said the car show was part of Earth Week at MSU.

Electric vehicles actually are more energy efficient than gasoline
vehicles, said Nolan.

Gompertz explained one thing that makes his vehicle stand out from regular
cars.

I've never had an oil change, never had a tune up, said Gompertz.

And he said re-charging is easy.

You can charge like you would any other chargeable device, said Gompertz.

But, he said, electric cars are not for everyone. They can cost more up
front and while some cars can go just as fast as any vehicle and the charge
lasts a couple of days, others only reach speeds of 35 mph and hold a charge
for one day.

Electric cars are primarily used for local driving, said Gompertz.

But as students stopped by to admire the cars, Gompertz said he hopes to
spread awareness and help celebrate Earth Week. This was the electric car
show's fourth year, hosted by the Network of Environmentally Conscious
Organizations.
[© 2015 by KECI, KCFW, KTVM]
...
http://www.evalbum.com/3766
Gompertz's 2008 Subaru Forester Sport AWD EV
...
http://lauratoyota.com/an-all-electric-subaru-forester/
An All-Electric Subaru Forester -
Meet Ron Gompertz, owner of Wild Joe's Coffee downtown. He converted this
Subaru Forester to all-electric over a bozeman subaru forester period of 4
years.
...
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/ron-gompertz/10/394/665
2011 - Present - President / CEO of Eco Auto Inc dba Wild Joe's Coffee Spot,
voted Bozeman's favorite coffee house in the Best of Bozeman survey and
recipient of Montana's Eco Star award.
[http://www.yelp.com/biz/wild-joes-coffee-spot-bozeman]

2006- 2011 - President / CEO of Eco Auto, representing all-electric vehicle
manufacturers and specializing in all-electric fleet vehicle alternatives.
...
http://www.biznet-mt.com/firms/5262250/
Ron Gompertz, founder of Eco Auto Inc in Bozeman, Montana sells ... electric
vehicles for fleet and personal use in the states of Montana, Wyoming, Idaho
and the Dakotas ...



[dated]
http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g45095-d2458408-i127635753-Wild_Joes_Coffee_Spot-Bozeman_Montana.html
Mar 2015 - Wild Joe*s all-electric Subaru is a one-of-a-kind, built to be a
zero-emissions errand runner
...
https://www.fac ebook.com/video.php?v=10151328019620314theater
[March 1, 2012] - Ron Gompertz Talks About The Rise of the Electric Car (v)
...
http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/electric-subaru/image_fb810df2-4235-11e1-8c85-001871e3ce6c.html
Electric Subaru - Bozeman Daily Chronicle: News
Jan 18, 2012 ... Ron Gompertz stands next to the Subaru Forester that he
converted to run on electricity outside his coffee shop, Wild Joe's, on
Wednesday.
...
http://www.i-club.com/forums/ongoing-projects-31/my-diy-subaru-electric-forester-sport-232987/
My DIY Subaru Electric Forester Sport - i-Club
07-15-2011 - Folks in the electric vehicle community were telling me a
Subaru was a ... Each  morning, I drive off with a full tank of electricity.
... Ron Gompertz
...
http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f62/magazine-cover-story-my-subaru-ev-conversion-97420/
Magazine cover story on my Subaru EV conversion - Subaru Forester ...
Jul 13, 2011 ... My Forester All-Electric car featured in magazine cover
story ... Ron Gompertz  Bozeman ... When is Subaru going to come out real
EV?




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[EVDL] EVLN: 310mi Electric Audi Q6 Version Arrival 2018

2015-04-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1057074_audi-q6-2018-arrival-310-mile-range-for-electric-version
Audi Q6: 2018 Arrival, 310-Mile Range For Electric Version
By  Viknesh Vijayenthiran  Apr 23, 2015

[image  
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2015 Audi Q5
]

Talk of Audi’s Q6, a coupe-like crossover slotting between the more
conventional Q5 and Q7, dates back all the way to 2006, but official info on
the vehicle never really emerged until this year when a teaser sketch of a
vehicle fitting our previous description of the Q6 was shown at an investor
meeting. The new vehicle was also said to be coming with an all-electric
“e-tron” variant that would rival Tesla Motors’ upcoming Model X and offer a
range of at least 310 miles on a single charge.

Now, Audi CEO Rupert Stadler has revealed a few more details on the vehicle.
Speaking with Auto Express, Stadler said the vehicle will arrive by 2018 and
that the arrival will coincide with some major developments in the area of
charging infrastructure. The developments in charging infrastructure the
Audi chief is referring to is the roll out of Tesla Supercharger-like rapid
charging stations.

“We think the infrastructure will be sufficient in terms of supercharging,”
he told the British publication, adding that the government in China, for
example, is looking to install rapid charge facilities along major highways.

In addition to the pure electric model, expect a plug-in hybrid as well ...
[© 2015 MotorAuthority]



https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-news/audi-to-build-full-electric-suv-with-400km-plus-range-report/
Audi to build full-electric SUV with 400km-plus range – report
Isaac Bober 2015-04-25
25 Apr 2015 Isaac Bober Isaac Bober
0 1 17 0
Audi to build a full-electric SUV with 400km-plus range
Audi has announced it will build a full-electric SUV to take on Tesla’s
Model X crossover, but the company claims plug-in hybrids will be its
preferred electric car dabble.

AUDI HAS TOLD automotive industry journal, Automotive News that it will
build a full-electric SUV with a range of almost 500km to take on the Tesla
Model X. However, Audi boss Rupert Stadler has told Automotive News the
company is cautious about committing to full-electric models.

For the next 10 to 15 years plug-in hybrids will be the preferred choice for
customers looking for a vehicle with some form of electrification, he said.
While many car companiess have produced a plug-in hybrid, only Mitsubishi
seems to have been able to market a real-world plug-in hybrid that demands
no compromise on behalf of the owner, the Outlander PHEV.

Plug-in hybrids are the right answer to balance urban journeys under
electric power with an internal combustion engine for longer trips, Stadler
told Automotive News.

Thanks to improvements in battery technology and countries developing
fast-charging networks, Audi is confident its SUV will be a success. The
interview with Automotive News was given at the Shanghai Motor Show last
week and with China committing to a network of fast-charging stations by
2020 (it plans to have a station every 40-odd kilometres) it’s likely China
will be the key market for Audi’s electric SUV.  Indeed, Audi says its SUV
will be able to derive an 80% charge in just 20 minutes from a fast charger.

Audi suggests the new model will get a bespoke design it’s developing just
for its EVs and plug-in hybrid models, and that it’s likely to be based on
the next-generation Q5.
[© Practical Motoring]



http://www.bidnessetc.com/40968-audi-plans-an-electric-suv-to-outclass-tesla-motors-incs-model-x/
Audi Plans An Electric SUV to Outclass Tesla Motors Inc’s Model X
By: George Zack  Apr 25, 2015
Audi is planning to build a Tesla Model X contender with more than 310-mile
electric range. However, the CEO wants the model to be hybrid
...
http://motrolix.com/2015/04/audi-electric-mobility-showcase-introduces-public-to-future-of-transport/
Audi Shows Off A3 E-Tron In Electric Mobility Showcase
2015-04-25 - Audi is testing the sustainability of its E-Tron Quattro with
its Electric Mobility Showcase program.




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[EVDL] EVLN: Fiat found 500e EVs that do not have limp-mode, recall to fix SW

2015-04-27 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.autoconnectedcar.com/2015/04/fiat-500e-software-update-for-limp-in-mode/
Fiat 500e software update for “limp-in” mode
April 19, 2015  by Gilbert Shar

[image  
http://cdn.autoconnectedcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/2014Fiat500E.jpg
(Orange-colored 500e EV)
]

FCA (Fiat Chrysler Autos) recalled about 2013-2015 Fiat electric cars in the
U.S. to upgrade the software due to a problem with losing power while
driving due to a software problem with “limp-in” mode.  Fiat calls the 500e
“Eco-Chic in the Modern World.”

There was an investigation after FCA received reports that some customers
experienced power loss while driving. They are not aware of any related
injuries or accidents, and drivers who experienced the condition were able
to restart their vehicles.

Affected are certain Fiat 500e hatchbacks. The cars are equipped with
software that induces “limp-in mode,” an EV feature that reduces propulsion
as a precaution, if the vehicle detects a problem.

Engineers determined some of these vehicles are equipped with a software
version that does not recognize limp-in mode. This may cause the vehicles to
shut down completely.

Affected owners will be notified when they may schedule a free software
upgrade, which will restore limp-in mode capability.
Fiat 500e sales have increased greatly, with discounts in the last few
months. TrueCar.com is showing prices  at $2,535 below MSRP.While
Edmunds.com is showing around $3,702 off the MSRP. There was buying frenzy
last month when it was reported the Fiat 500e models were being leased for
less than $100 month.
[© 2015 Aproprose]



http://ecomento.com/2015/04/14/fiat-500e-recall-for-software-fault-2015/
Electric FIAT 500e recall for software fault
April 14, 2015 | 

Every FIAT 500e sold in the US and manufactured prior to October 31, 2014
will be subject to a recall to fix a software glitch that could cause the
car’s electric powertrain to shut down completely – not something you want
to happen when pulling into traffic in front of a speed cement mixer. About
5,600 vehicles are affected.

In a notice dated April 11, 2015, the company said “incompatible software
between the Electric Vehicle Control Unit and the Battery Pack Control
Module may cause the electric propulsion system to fully shut down.” The
glitch that is the subject of the recall notice was created in March of 2014
by a software update intended to improve “charging system robustness,
diagnostic capability and range estimation over life.”

But after the update, the Electric Vehicle Control Unit software could not
recognize a limp home mode added by the update, potentially causing the
drivetrain shutdown. On October 31, 2014, the software for cars then in
production was updated to eliminate the problem. FIAT has offered no
explanation for why it waited 5 months to notify owners.

This is the third FIAT 500e recall for the diminutive electric car. In June,
2014, all cars manufactured to that point were recalled due to a coolant
leak in their power inverter modules. Coolant could leak onto high voltage
components causing a fuse to blow. In that case as well a loss of power
could occur. In 2013, the cars were recalled to fix faulty half shafts that
could come apart while driving, leading to a loss of power and possibly a
loss of control.

FIAT dealers authorized to service the electric Fiat 500 will update the
software after owners receive a letter about the recall directing them to
contact their local dealer. Owners can contact Fiat at 1-888-242-6342. The
recall notice can be found on the SaferCar website operated by the National
Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
[© ecomento.com]
...
http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1097773_2013-2015-fiat-500e-recalled-for-software-flaw
2013-2015 Fiat 500E Recalled For Software Flaw
By Richard Read  Apr 13, 2015 - Fiat Chrysler Automobiles has issued a
recall for 2013, 2014, and 2015 models of the fully electric Fiat 500e ...



[dated]
http://www.fiat500usa.com/2014/02/how-to-reboot-fiat-500e-electric-vehicle.html
How to Reboot the Fiat 500e Electric Vehicle
February 17, 2014 ... The 500e is very sensitive and to protect the main
battery and other systems and it will go into a limp mode ...
...
http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?12144-running-out-of-gas-aka-limp-mode
03-07-2012 #1  ChrisC  Jul 2010  Atlanta GA
[From GM Volt pih forum] Default running out of gas, aka limp mode ...




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Re: [EVDL] Hey Buddy, Can You Spare Some Leaf Bus Bars?

2015-04-27 Thread via EV
Excellent, John. Please contact me off list at bmlcommerce at mac dot com.

How many do you have? I need about 30.

Thanks,
Bruce

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:41 AM, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
 
 From: John Lussmyer via EV ev@lists.evdl.org mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org
 
 
 On Sat Apr 25 18:50:49 PDT 2015 ev@lists.evdl.org mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org 
 said:
 On the off chance that one of you has taken apart a Leaf pack and 
 reconfigured it such that you?re not using the bus bars anymore, I?ve got to 
 ask: can I have or buy them from you?
 
 I have a bunch up here on Whidbey Island.

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Re: [EVDL] Can Automakers Legally Stop You From Working On Your Car?

2015-04-27 Thread Russ Sciville via EV
Its not too bad in the UK at the moment.

The electric part is largely ignored as long as the car passes a four hour 
inspection for a ground up new build or you may just get away with the electric 
drive being considered as a replacement engine on an existing glider as I did 
on my Elise and they simply re-registered it.

MOT (yearly government inspection) tests that all cars require are quicker as 
no emission tests are required.

Russ

On Sun, 26/4/15, HARSHA GODAVARI via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Can Automakers Legally Stop You From Working On Your Car?
 To: Peter C. Thompson pe...@cruzware.com, Electric Vehicle Discussion 
List ev@lists.evdl.org
 Date: Sunday, 26 April, 2015, 16:36
 
 Microsoft certified
 hardware/software only please, to protect us of course :-)
 
 
 regards 
 hg 
 
 -
 Original Message -
 
 From: Peter C. Thompson via EV
 ev@lists.evdl.org
 
 To: ev@lists.evdl.org
 
 Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:31:53 PM 
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Can Automakers Legally Stop
 You From Working On Your Car? 
 
 This is a serious problem in Europe. I just got
 back from visiting my 
 work's office in
 Munich, and they have to jump through some serious 
 hoops to get a car electrified in Germany. 
 
 Also, it really isn't
 possible to modify a car in Switzerland (worse 
 case) - they will force you to put on only
 certified parts or impound 
 the car. O_O 
 
 Cheers, Peter 
 
 On 4/25/15 9:26 PM, Doc
 Kennedy via EV wrote: 
  I'm not
 laughing. It's my worst nightmare and I'm just an
 artist and EV 
  tinker. 
  
  Doc 
  
  On Sat, Apr 25, 2015
 at 11:08 PM, Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
 
  wrote: 
  
  Not specific to EVs, except insofar as
 they're coming of age at the same 
  time as the automakers are trying to
 follow in the computer industry's 
  footsteps. 
 
 
  
  http://www.hotrod.com/news/1504-can-automakers-legally-stop-you-from-working-on-your-car/
 
  
 
 Homebrew conversions are going to have a great deal of
 attraction to them 
  for anybody who
 doesn't want some corporate beancounter somewhere
 telling 
  them what they can and
 can't do with an hunk of steel they just paid good 
  money for. My only fear is that the
 automakers might try to get legislation 
  passed that requires the original
 manufacturer to certify any such 
  conversion. Can you imagine having to
 get permission from GM to drive your 
  newly-electrified '57 Caddy? 
  
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Re: [EVDL] EV Boat

2015-04-27 Thread jerry freedomev via EV

  Hi George and All,    That is a lot of boat drag to either go fast or 
far.   Just not a great choice for solar power.   Next since it can 
only go max 5mph on E and few miles depending on your battery pack hard to 
justify it.  And no need of expensive controllers, E cycle motors as 2 speeds 
would be fine.    No detail on the prop, which needs to be as large as 
possible turning slow rpm for most eff.     What kind of outboards, 
inboards, KWHR and what it does now on them in speed, range.    Not 
likely to ever be more than a few mile range at low speed on electricity. But 
driven slow like 4mph with more panels, only 1.5hp of solar now.    
Answer these and we can go from there.    Doing EV boats one needs to 
start with a sailboat, mono, cat or tri hulls with much lower drag.    
A real canal/narrowboat would be great.
'eCycle electric motors, super cap/battery amalgamations, advanced alkaline 
fuel cells, thin/flexible PV modules'These are needlessly expensive 
or just not viable at all.
 Jerry Dycus
         
   From: George McNeir via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
 To: ev@lists.evdl.org 
 Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 9:06 PM
 Subject: [EVDL] EV Boat
   
I have just joined and subscribe to EVDL with the idea that there are 
likeminded folks interested in large EV boat design and building. The MOG is 
not a commercial enterprise at this time but may be key to the creation of 
such. Everything designed and implemented over the past 25 years is described 
on the site given below and in the videos and blog that are also given below.

Primarily I ask for any dialog that would help in furthering the progress made 
to date. In effect, those with knowledge of the Navitas NPS600 motor 
controller, eCycle electric motors, super cap/battery amalgamations, advanced 
alkaline fuel cells, thin/flexible PV modules, internal grid power distribution 
DC networks and anything else that may be contemplated for such a craft is 
welcome.

In its present form, the totally solar electric (drive and appliance) powered 
boat is very functional. Considerations in decreasing onboard use of power as 
well as better use of power now created and stored is paramount in continuing 
further development.

To date, all of the boat design  build has been funded through my own personal 
funds as a hobby. Below are the background data to which I referred.

Thank you in advance for your deliberation and comments. George


VIDEOS    Moving    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI2nnN5892Afeature=youtu.be

        Beached  https://youtu.be/h92dWykE_Xo

        Tour          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRGKbayI2yI

SITE        http://www.mogcanalboat.com

BLOG    http://www.mognavy.blogspot.com/
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Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +

2015-04-27 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV

More here.. http://santamonicapd.org/Content.aspx?id=52058
  From: Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
 To: Peri Hartman pe...@kotatko.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List 
ev@lists.evdl.org 
 Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, 
pepper-sprayed +
   
On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 Either something huge is missing from the story or we're seeing incredibly 
 poor judgment by police officers.

Alas, I fear the only thing missing is a realization that this sort of shit 
goes on all the time, and it's only quite rare that there's somebody with a 
camera there to film it. The only poor judgement the officers are going to 
consider themselves guilty of is not noticing the bystander with the camera.

Driving While Black is outrageous enough...apparently Charging While Black 
needs to be added to the list.

I have some small hope that the increasing ubiquity of smartphones will help 
keep the cops better in line...but cops are also well known for intimidating 
bystanders into destroying evidence that incriminates corrupt cops, if 
necessary by arresting the bystanders for failing to comply with a police order 
and then accidentally destroying the evidence themselves.

There're lots of good cops on the beat, to be sure...but the system as an whole 
stinks to high heaven.

Regardless...a sad lesson for EV drivers with a built-in suntan. You're at as 
much danger from the cops when you're charging as you are when you're driving; 
plan your charging accordingly, be aware, and protect yourself. Maybe even 
invest in a dsahcam of your own, and a particularly inconspicuous one at 
that

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Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +

2015-04-27 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
 stations and 2 parking spaces. Across the parking 
lot
from the Thelma Terry Building.
COMMENTS:
JonMan 3 days ago
Parked here for the first time today and my car was unplugged after 
only 20
min. Only one charger is working but there was a blue Honda Fit plugged 
in
when I returned and it appeared to have a full charge. Nearby residents 
must
think this is their personal charging station.

lmles 6 days ago
Charge Speed Reduced — be here for about three hours. Unplug Red P85+ 
if
you need
Rosawan 11 days ago
Both clipper Creek chargers in use

Manuel 21 days ago
Locals seem to use this as their charging spot. This location is abused

  ... [many more entries] ...
Michael 8 months ago
All spots taken.

Jay 8 months ago
Volt and i3 fully charged. I unplugged the Volt and his horn honked. 
Huh?

Rosawan 8 months ago
iced

Kipernicus 8 months ago
tried two units, one on the Pico side and one on Virginia park side, 
and
both were limited to 22 amps. car gave an error saying it detected an
extension cord or bad wiring

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Haris a year ago
White focus. All 4 chargers are currently occupied and charging, I saw 
a
couple people waiting for a charge too, they turn off the chargers 
around
10:30 pm every night
  ... [many more entries] ...
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http://www.plugshare.com/?location=11519
Virginia Avenue Park - Pico Lot
PlugScore 7.9
Ports EV Plug (J1772)
Address 2208 Pico Blvd Santa Monica? California 90405
Phone (310) 458-8688
Hours NOT 24/7: Chargers are shutdown after 6pm
Description In front of basketball court next to handicap spaces. 
Signed no
parking electric vehicles exempt two parking spaces and two clipper 
creek
chargers plus one paddle charger. Does NOT have power 24/7. Chargers 
are
shutdown after 6pm. Entrance on Pico.
COMMENTS:
Mister Mister 20 days ago
Both in use.

  ... [many more entries] ...
Jay 8 months ago
Two Volts fully charged. Can't get my car in to unplug and start 
charging.
:(. 2hr parking?

Yush 8 months ago
Left car at 9pm and charged til 1048pm then it stopped must be when 
they
turned it off. I still got an additional 50% so I'll pick it up this
morning.

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Hampton 11 months ago
Right besides Saturday Farmer Market, Nice spot!!

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Abi a year ago
Charging here is always a coin toss. On this lot or on the other lot 
there
always seems to be a Chevy volt always charging here.

  ... [many more entries] ...
Charlie H a year ago
Units on other side of park did not work. Units at this location fine.
  ... [many more entries] ...
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% Note: the news item did not state which of the two public EVSE sites
(above) listed on plugshare the SMPD assaulted an EVr at. Both of those
plugshare listings 'were' listed as 24/7. It was in the description on 
one
and the shared comments of another, that I changed each of their 
incorrect
24/7 status to what they really were: one shutdown after 11:30pm, and 
the
other shutdown after 6pm. I also added a warning in the comments 
section of
each of those two plugshare listings:

Warning when late-night charging, S.Monica PD have assaulted EVr who 
was
charging, see
http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/2015/04/committee-for-racial-justice-calls-emergency-meeting-tonight/


*However plugshare staff have been known to remove or edit whatever 
they
feel, so they might incorrectly change the access status back to show 
it as
24/7 %




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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 30, Issue 41

2015-04-27 Thread Darryl McMahon via EV

George, you might also be interested in the Electric Boat discussion group.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electricboats/
(Yahoo! ID required)

Darryl McMahon
(owner of small solar electric boat)

On 27/04/2015 5:20 AM, via EV wrote:

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 21:06:04 -0400
From: George McNeir via EVev@lists.evdl.org
To:ev@lists.evdl.org
Subject: [EVDL] EV Boat
Message-ID:ea64c13a-3fa8-4c02-8682-891427480...@qson.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I have just joined and subscribe to EVDL with the idea that there are 
likeminded folks interested in large EV boat design and building. The MOG is 
not a commercial enterprise at this time but may be key to the creation of 
such. Everything designed and implemented over the past 25 years is described 
on the site given below and in the videos and blog that are also given below.

Primarily I ask for any dialog that would help in furthering the progress made 
to date. In effect, those with knowledge of the Navitas NPS600 motor 
controller, eCycle electric motors, super cap/battery amalgamations, advanced 
alkaline fuel cells, thin/flexible PV modules, internal grid power distribution 
DC networks and anything else that may be contemplated for such a craft is 
welcome.

In its present form, the totally solar electric (drive and appliance) powered 
boat is very functional. Considerations in decreasing onboard use of power as 
well as better use of power now created and stored is paramount in continuing 
further development.

To date, all of the boat design  build has been funded through my own personal 
funds as a hobby. Below are the background data to which I referred.

Thank you in advance for your deliberation and comments. George


VIDEOS  Moving  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI2nnN5892Afeature=youtu.be

Beachedhttps://youtu.be/h92dWykE_Xo

Tourhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRGKbayI2yI

SITEhttp://www.mogcanalboat.com

BLOGhttp://www.mognavy.blogspot.com/


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Re: [EVDL] OT: how is performance of Ford plugin Cmax vehicles?

2015-04-27 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
I have a 2013 C-MAX Energi with 18,000 miles on it. No real complaints. 
I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.


--Rick

On 04/24/2015 07:50 PM, Ed Thorpe via EV wrote:

Hello,


Has anyone on the list bought a ford plugin cmax car or suv? I'm
familier with how the toyotas are performing and holding up. Wonder
how ford's models are doing.


Ed


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Re: [EVDL] EV Boat

2015-04-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 26, 2015, at 6:06 PM, George McNeir via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 In effect, those with knowledge of the Navitas NPS600 motor controller, 
 eCycle electric motors, super cap/battery amalgamations, advanced alkaline 
 fuel cells, thin/flexible PV modules, internal grid power distribution DC 
 networks and anything else that may be contemplated for such a craft is 
 welcome.

You've already got the motor and controller specced, it seems, but, if you're 
still in the early stages of things, you might want to get in touch with HPEVS. 
They've got a a brand-new line of oil-cooled versions of their motors 
specifically designed for marine usage.

http://www.hpevs.com/oil-cooled-drive-systems.htm

b
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[EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-27 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions via EV
Can the auto builder stop you from working on your car???, They can pas that 
kind of assanighn bill if they want, but who will enforce it? . Its your 
car/truck, you paid for it, and you over paid for it to begin with . The 
aftermarket lobby will shut it down faster than a wet fart on a hot day . 
Following it to the letter, a oil change not with the builders specks will be 
against the law? LOLOL clowns, thats whats this is all about, what clown can 
make the most noise . sounds more and more like  Atlas shrugged , The Govt 
will tell you what to drive, where you can drive, What time you can drive, If 
you can work on your car, where to buy parts and supplies , Then you will have 
to over pay for a special, never seen on this planet, spark plug . or gizmo 
or do-dad they demand you replace at the builders dealer garage 

It may happen, if the Feds get their way, and they almost do...for the good of 
the people BS is what I say, they can kiss my ass 
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Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +

2015-04-27 Thread Russ Sciville via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +

2015-04-27 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
Sorry, but I am at a loss to understand why we are even discussing this.  Who 
knows what *really* happened.  Why didn't the driver just show the police his 
ID?  He has complained about the incident and I gather he has been charged and 
will attend court in due course and give his side of the story.  Hopefully some 
enlightened magistrates/judge/fellow peers will decide what happens next and 
that *should* be that... or are we saying that because this driver is 
*allegedly* 'black' he should be dealt with differently by police who it 
appears were obviously investigating an allegation of some sort?  MW


On 27 Apr 2015, at 03:30, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

Either something huge is missing from the story or we're seeing incredibly poor 
judgment by police officers.  It seems to me, especially with all the recent 
awareness, that police chiefs would be on heightened alert for retraining their 
officers to abstain from racial profiling.  Then, even if making a mistake, why 
all the aggressive action?  Thanks, Bruce, for bringing this to attention 
(though I suspect this will be all over the headlines).

Peri

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Subject: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, 
pepper-sprayed +

 
 
 % Always show your ID EV-ignorant profiling-police will assault charging
 EVrs %
 
 http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/2015/04/committee-for-racial-justice-calls-emergency-meeting-tonight/
 COMMITTEE FOR RACIAL JUSTICE CALLS EMERGENCY MEETING TONIGHT
 April 26, 2015  by Peggy Clifford
 
 The Committee for Racial Justice has called an emergency meeting tonight to
 discuss an apparent assault Tuesday night on a Black man by Santa Monica PD.
 
 The meeting will be held at The Church in Ocean Park, 235 Hill Street, Santa
 Monica at 7:00 pm. As this is a community problem, the Committee hopes for a
 large community response.a wide-ranging discussion and the development of a
 positive and just course of action.
 
 Here is the NAACP’s account of the incident:
 
 Darrell Goode, in his capacity as SM-Venice NAACP President, has asked me to
 let you know about SMPD activity that took place at an electric car charging
 dock in Virginia Ave Park in Santa Monica on Tuesday night, April 22 that is
 the subject of community concern.
 
 The electrical charge docks are open until 11pm. A 36 year-old Black male
 who was charging his electric vehicle at 10:45pm was approached by several
 police officers, who asked for his ID. He asked “why?” Subsequently, he was
 pushed to the ground, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed and taken into
 custody.
 
 The individual was charged with not following a police order. He was jailed
 and released the next day. He requi-
 red eye treatment due to the pepper spray. He has a court date May 25.
 
 A video of some of the interaction was taken by a female passerby,
 unacquainted with any of the parties.
 
 [video
 https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bwdp1kXhDPb3cmFkM01ObmpteUpnZGIzV1d0V0MzeUNoNGlF
 ]
 
 The video shows apparently egregious behavior by the police. The woman who
 took the video came forward because she believes the police behavior was
 excessive.
 
 The information on the video is incomplete. It does not show all angles, and
 it does not show the entire interaction from start to finish.
 
 On April 23, at First AME Church in Santa Monica, Darrell Goode interviewed
 the man, the passerby/ witness who videotaped part of the interaction and
 several other people.
 
 Based on information we have, there was no warrant for the man’s arrest and
 neither he, his car, nor license number fit any description based on any
 recent criminal activity.
 
 Darrell Goode has informed SMPD Chief Seabrooks, via SMPD Command Staff, of
 his efforts to assemble information and his intention to publicize it. Based
 on what is known so far, he may call a community meeting.
 
 Meantime, Chief Seabrooks has promised a full internal investigation and the
 man intends to file complaints against one or more of the officers involved.
 
 The man has the right to take his case against the officers to the City
 Personnel Board. Therefore, in addition to filing a complaint with the SMPD,
 the man intends to ask for an independent review by the Board.
 
 We are united in our unwavering commitment to non-violent advocacy for
 fairness, transparency and justice for all. .
 [© santamonicadispatch.com]
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 Editor: Peggy Clifford – PegClf @aol.com
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 The Church in Ocean Park 310-399-1631 i...@churchop.org
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 PlugScore 4.4
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 Address 2200 Virginia Ave Santa Monica, CA 90404
 Hours NOT 24/7: Chargers are 

Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +

2015-04-27 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
One must understand police culture.  They are looking for clean prosecutable 
offences. Black man in electric car charging area...something must be wrong.  
Ask for ID..uncooperativebingo he must be a criminal.  Easy bust a bingo 
for the cops.   This is how black men are treated by the cops.  He gets an 
asswhoopin.   Not the end.  He will now get a big pay day and these cops will 
lose their pensions.  The end.  Lawrence Rhodes... 
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