[EVDL] EVLN: Soul EV now sold in NY, NJ, CT, MD and CA, GA, TX, OR, WA, HI

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http://insideevs.com/kia-makes-soul-ev-available-in-four-additional-u-s-states/
Kia Makes Soul EV Available In Four Additional U.S. States
[20151007]  by Eric Loveday

Kia has just announced that its electric Soul EV will be available in four
additional U.S. states starting in Q4 2015:

“Soul EV sales in the Northeast will begin in the fourth quarter.”

Those Northeast states are as follows:

New York
New Jersey
Connecticut
Maryland

Sales of the Soul EV will be handled in this manner in the 4 additional
states:

“Nineteen Kia dealers will be certified to sell and service the Soul EV
across these four states, and customers will have access to charging
stations installed at these facilities. The Soul EV will be sold in eight
New York dealerships, six New Jersey dealerships, three Maryland
dealerships, and two Connecticut dealerships.”

Orth Hedrick, vice president of product planning at Kia Motors America,
stated:

“Kia’s sales strategy for the Soul EV has been progressive and pragmatic
since its launch late last year. California consumers created a high level
of demand, and the state’s large infrastructure made it a natural place to
start. Between consumer reaction to the Soul EV and growing infrastructure
programs in states such as these in the Northeast, this is a logical – and
exciting – next step in our rollout plan.”

With the additional of 4 states, the Kia Soul EV will be available in a
total of 10 U.S. states:’

California
Georgia
Texas
Oregon
Washington
Hawaii
New York
New Jersey
Connecticut
Maryland


Press release below:

KIA MOTORS AMERICA EXPANDS SOUL EV AVAILABILITY TO FOUR ADDITIONAL STATES

Soul Electric Vehicle1 Will be Available for Sale in New York, New Jersey,
Connecticut, and Maryland

Expansion into four new states underlines Kia’s commitment to green mobility
and its fun-and-funky alternative-fuel vehicle

Fourth phase of progressive launch reflects growing consumer demand

IRVINE, Calif., October 7, 2015 – Following the successful launch of the
Soul EVlate last year in California, along with sales beginning in Georgia,
Texas, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii earlier this year, Kia Motors America
(KMA) is proud to announce it is expanding availability of its fully charged
urban runabout into four new states: New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and
Maryland. KMA’s announcement will bring the total number of states selling
the Soul EV to 10. Nineteen Kia dealers will be certified to sell and
service the Soul EV across these four states, and customers will have access
to charging stations installed at these facilities. The Soul EV will be sold
in eight New York dealerships, six New Jersey dealerships, three Maryland
dealerships, and two Connecticut dealerships.

“Kia’s sales strategy for the Soul EV has been progressive and pragmatic
since its launch late last year,” said Orth Hedrick, vice president of
product planning, KMA. “California consumers created a high level of demand,
and the state’s large infrastructure made it a natural place to start.
Between consumer reaction to the Soul EV and growing infrastructure programs
in states such as these in the Northeast, this is a logical – and exciting –
next step in our rollout plan.”

Soul EV sales in the Northeast will begin in the fourth quarter. Soul EV
owners will easily be able to locate the numerous charging stations using
the standard UVO EV Services2 telematics system. Available at no cost for
the first five years of ownership, UVO EV Services utilizes an embedded
connectivity solution powered by the Verizon®3 network and an integral
smartphone app to provide Soul EV owners with an innovative, real-time,
in-vehicle connectivity experience that includes navigation and a host of
added convenience features.

Offered in two trims, Base and + (Plus), the 2016 Soul EV MSRP4 is $33,950
(not including federal tax rebate of $7,500) for the Base and $35,950 (not
including federal tax rebate of $7,500) for the Plus. A lease price of
$249/month for the Soul EV Base5 is also available.

About the 2016 Soul EV
As the centerpiece of the Kia’s ‘Clean Mobility’ efforts, the Soul EV is the
embodiment of the brand’s environmentally focused mission, transforming the
hip urban crossover into Kia’s first mass-market, all-electric zero
emissions vehicle to be sold in the U.S. Combining the iconic design of the
Soul with advanced eco-friendly technology has landed the Soul EV in a class
all its own. Honored with an industry-first automotive environmental
validation by Underwriters Laboratory (UL) for its innovative use of
bio-based materials, the Soul EV also has an EPA estimated range rating of
93 miles with an MPGe of 92 miles highway and 120 miles city for a combined
fuel economy of 105 miles6 .

The Soul EV makes charging easy by plugging into any standard 120v outlet or
a conventional 240v EV charger. Two charging ports are standard, including a
SAE J1772 port for Level 1 and Level 2 AC, and a CHAdeMo DC fast-charging
port (480v). Found behind a 

[EVDL] EVLN: 5,000 Soul EVs Sold Worldwide> A Milestone Hit

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http://insideevs.com/kia-hit-milestone-5000-soul-ev-sold-worldwide/
Kia Hits Milestone Of 5,000 Soul EV Sold Worldwide
[20151009]  by Mark Kane

[image  
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The Kia Soul EV Is Eligible For The Texas Incentive...If You Can Find One To
Buy That Is

http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/1141.jpg
]

This summer Kia reached a milestone of selling its first 5,000 Soul EV
electric cars.

Production of this model begin over one year ago in 2014.

By August 2015 sales of Kia Soul EV amounted to 5,399.

South Korea’s car is sold mainly in a few countries, but Kia is slowly
expanding availability of the Soul EV.

Through the end of August 2015, 1,177 were sold cumulatively in South Korea
(in total 4,222 were sold overseas), while an additional 981 were sold in
the US and at least 1,099 in Germany (registrations for 2015).

Another 1,000 or so we believe are in Norway, where our incomplete data
already indicate a several-hundred-strong fleet of Soul EVs.

All in all, around 4 per 5 Soul EVs were sold in South Korea, Germany,
Norway or US (several states, recently expanded to 10).

Target for the second year? Unknown, but August ends with an all-time
monthly high of 676 sales.
[© 2015 Inside EVs]
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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/business/2015/10/08/050100AEN20151008002900320.html
Global sales of Soul EV top 5,000 units
2015/10/08
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[EVDL] EVLN: Soul EV 122mi Castle2Castle Cross-County UK Electric-Challenge (v)

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http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2015/10/09/143724-kia-soul-ev-takes-cross-county-electric-challenge-video.html
Kia Soul EV Takes the Cross County Electric Challenge +VIDEO
[2015/10/09]

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video
https://youtu.be/YE7JeXF1nP8
2015 Kia Soul EV Cross County Challenge
The Auto Channel Oct 9, 2015
To showcase the Soul EV’s competitive attributes, Kia Motors joined forces
with influential motoring journalist, Simon McBride, to put it to the
ultimate test – a zero emissions race across UK counties, against an
electric train.
]

 - Challenge: race from York to Carlisle castles using electricity alone

 - Undulating and diverse 122 mile route for the Soul EV, fully electrified
route for the train

 - Nail biting finish in the foreground of Carlisle castle

YORK, England - October 10, 2015: Since the Kia Soul EV's UK launch in
October 2014 it has consistently impressed with its class leading
homologated range of 132 miles, battery density of 200 Wh/kg, high level of
equipment, excellent driving experience and everyday practicality.

To showcase the Soul EV’s competitive attributes, Kia Motors joined forces
with influential motoring journalist, Simon McBride, to put it to the
ultimate test – a zero emissions race across UK counties, against an
electric train.

The task involved driving from York castle to Carlisle castle using
electricity alone, a 122 mile direct route by road and a mainline blast by
train. Only three rules applied, castle to castle, electric power only and
any point to point route was permitted.

The video, which accurately outlines the routes and tracks each journey from
point to point, gives an exciting perspective into how all-electric cars can
be taken out of their day to day environment and challenged to deliver a
variation of driver needs and journeys.
[© theautochannel.com]



http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2015/10/09/143693-electric-vehicles-complete-successful-mpg-marathon.html
Electric Vehicles Complete Successful MPG Marathon
[2015/10/09]  In the other EV, a Kia Soul, were Sam Young and Chris Lilly
representing the Next Green Car website. They completed the course in a
total of 370.96 miles and ...




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[EVDL] EVLN: EVA.nl (Norsk elbilforening) Scenic Driving Video

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'20th Anniversary EV Fest Rally'

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1100394_norwegian-electric-car-clubs-scenic-driving-video-surprise-hit
Norwegian Electric-Car Club's Scenic Driving Video: Surprise Hit
By Stephen Edelstein  Oct 8, 2015

[video
https://youtu.be/ABvvcQTBeSI
eRally Geiranger 2015: Taking electric vehicles out of town!
Norsk Elbilforening Sep 14, 2015
The world´s best place for EV tourism

- Boasting charging opportunities for more than 60 cars, we welcomed a crowd
of EV drivers to world famous tourist spot Geiranger, Norway, says Christina
Bu of Norsk elbilforening.

Beyond 50 electric vehicles (called elbil in Norwegian) with more than 100
people on board, from all over the country, showed up for the EV festival
based at historic Hotel Union and Norsk fjords enter in the last weekend of
August.

The world famous UNESCO World Heritage Site Geiranger was - unofficially -
crowned the best developed place for EV tourism: The village with a
population of about 250 now boasts more than one charging point for each
tenth citizen.

- This is probably a world record and the reason why we crown Geiranger as
the best village in the world for EV tourism, says Christina Bu, secretary
general of the Norwegian EV Association (Norsk elbilforening).

The EV Festival also constituted the first part of the association's 20th
anniversary (see fact file below). To promote development of charging
infrastructure in rural areas, and at the same time EV tourism, this year´s
event was located in scenic Geiranger.

- With our EV festival we would, once again, like to place the focus on the
EV not being just a metropolitan phenomenon. Last weekend we proved
emissionfree EV tourism in a wonderful, rural scenery is not just possible.
It is perfect, says Bu.

Not only Norwegian EV drivers took their vehicles into the lovely fjord and
mountain scenery last weekend: Harm Otten came all the way from the
Netherlands to join the rally. An interview with Otten, in English, has been
published on Norway´s most popular EV website (elbil.no):
elbil.no/nyheter/elbilpolitikk/3617-from­-holland-to-geiranger-in-his-renault-zoe

After the grand opening of the charging park at Norsk fjordsenter, which now
offers both quick charger (CHAdeMO and CCS) and 24 flexible charging
stations (11-22 kW AC), all participating EVs took on the steep slopes to
famous landmark Dalsnibba, situated 1,476 meters above fjord level.

In addition a total of 34 temporary charging points made sure all
participants at the festival were able to be fully charged.

- There was no range anxiety at all, and EVs crowded the parking lot at busy
Dalsnibba for a change - instead of just fossil fuelled cars and tourist
buses, says Bu.

In other words: The future also arrived at the famous landmark this
Saturday. See large and scenic photo album from the EV festival on Flickr!

FACT FILE: Norsk elbilforening
Norsk elbilforening (Norwegian EV Association) was founded in November 1995.
Norsk elbilforening´s primary goal is to promote zero emission transport
solutions. We support the introduction of vehicles that run fully or
partially on renewable energy. Norsk elbilforening is an independent
consumer organization (NGO) and today has almost 27.000 members. Norway now
has more than 60.000 battery electric vehicles (BEV) and around 7.000
plug-in hybrids (PHEV). This means 2,5 percent of the total passenger car
fleet is now chargeable.


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]

Thanks to aggressive government incentives and substantial charging
infrastructure, Norway has the highest number of electric cars per capita of
any country in the world.

Now, some of that enthusiasm for electric cars is going viral.

A video of a rally held by the Norsk elbilforening (Norwegian EV
Association) last month has already garnered more than 25,000 views on
Facebook and YouTube, the group points out.

The video shows a convoy of around 50 electric cars driving through the town
of Geiranger, and to the top of a nearby mountain--all in celebration of the
group's 20th anniversary.

Geiranger--population 250--has been unofficially crowned the "world's best
place for EV tourism" by the Norwegian EV Association, because it has one
charging station for roughly every 10 citizens.

Club members made the most of Geiranger's scenic location, shooting a long
line of electric cars climbing up a twisty mountain road.

There are also several dramatic overhead shots that were taken from a drone.

The convoy included a wide variety of electric cars, from Nissan Leafs to

[EVDL] Assault> Trespassing media's ice injures Gigafactory employee

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http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/13/9521561/tesla-gigafactory-trespassing-assault
Tesla says journalists snuck into Gigafactory and assaulted its employees
By Chris Welch on October 13, 2015

A confrontation between Tesla and two trespassing journalists has resulted
in felony assault charges. Tesla is publicly sharing its side of the
troubling incident, which occurred last Friday, in a blog post published
today. According to the company, an employee noticed two people snapping
photos of the Gigafactory, Tesla's still-under-construction lithium-ion
battery factory, and immediately called for assistance.

The journalists refused to identify themselves once notified that they were
illegally trespassing on Tesla property, though Tesla notes that IDs from
the Reno Gazette Journal were hanging from their pockets and plainly
visible. (Both were later confirmed as RGJ employees, in case you were
wondering whether they were merely impersonating journalists.) They also
tried to argue that they weren't knowingly trespassing, though Tesla says
the only way into the Gigafactory is through a fence with plenty of "private
property" warnings.

The journalists were asked to remain at the scene while the local Sheriff's
department and more Tesla security responded to the complaint. And that's
when things just got downright insane. Here's how Tesla says the events
unfolded:

Disregarding this request, the RGJ employees entered the Jeep. As the
Tesla employee attempted to record the license plate number on the rear
bumper, the driver put it in reverse and accelerated into the Tesla
employee, knocking him over, causing him to sustain a blow to the left hip,
an approximate 2" bleeding laceration to his right forearm, a 3" bleeding
laceration to his upper arm, and scrapes on both palms.

As the RGJ employees fled the scene, their Jeep struck the ATV that
carried the two safety managers. When one of the safety managers dismounted
the ATV and approached the Jeep, the driver of the Jeep accelerated into
him, striking him in the waist.

One of the journalists, photographer Andy Barron, is being charged with two
counts of felony assault, and both will face trespassing charges. Tesla is
understandably livid about the situation, as it would seem these journalists
ignored common sense (and the law) in pursuing a scoop on the company's $5
billion battery plant. 

"We appreciate the interest in the Gigafactory, but the repeated acts of
trespassing, including by those working for the RGJ, is illegal, dangerous
and needs to stop," Tesla said in its blog post. "In particular, we will not
stand for assaults on our employees and are working with law enforcement to
investigate this incident and ensure that those responsible are brought to
justice."

So far, the Reno Gazette Journal has not sought to discredit or dispute
Tesla's version of the story, but says its jeep came away with a shattered
driver's side window — said to be smashed with a rock — and slashed
seatbelt. For its part, Tesla says the RGJ jeep struck its security ATV and
hit another safety manager in the waist before arrests were made. "We take
this situation very seriously and it is under investigation at this time,"
publisher John Maher said in a statement. Barron has worked as a
photographer for the company since 1998.
[© theverge.com]



http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2015/10/13/assault-and-batteries-tesla-alleges-gigafactory.html
Assault and batteries: Tesla alleges Gigafactory employee was struck and
injured by trespassing journalists' Jeep
Oct 13, 2015  Leia Parker
Palo Alto-based Tesla Motors alleged Tuesday in a blog post that two Reno
Gazette-Journal employees trespassed onto its Gigafactory property last
Friday in Nevada, reversing a Jeep into a Tesla employee and injuring him as
they tried to flee the area.

The Storey County, Nevada, Sheriff's Department arrested one of the Reno
Gazette-Journal employees for two counts of felony assault with a deadly
weapon and advised that both will be charged with trespassing, Tesla said
...

A Tesla safety manager received a complaint on Friday about two trespassers
taking pictures at the $5 billion Gigafactory — a lithium-ion battery
factory, which is still being built. He found the two, told them they were
trespassing and asked their names, Tesla said. The two refused to give their
names, even though their Reno Gazette-Journal ID credentials were hanging
from their pockets, the electric-car manufacturer said.

A second safety manager joined the first Tesla employee, and they asked the
two RGJ employees to wait, as security management and the sheriff's
department were on their way, Tesla said.

The RGJ employees got into a Jeep marked with RGJ decals and tried to leave,
Tesla said.


"As the Tesla employee attempted to record the license plate number on the
rear bumper, the driver put it in reverse and accelerated into the Tesla
employee, knocking him over, causing him to sustain a blow to the left hip,
an 

[EVDL] San Francisco to San Diego.(Ramona)

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

Whole Foods Market EVgo 5200 Dublin Blvd.  Dublin , CA 94568 SAEVineyard 76 
4530 Kierman Ave, Salida, Ca 95368  48.7 miles SAEApplegate Plaza 1000 Commerce 
Drive, Atwater, CA 95301 38 miles SAEWhole Foods Fig Garden Village Shopping 
Center, 650 W. Shaw Ave, Fresno, CA 93704 66.2 miles SAEFashion Fair Mall 563 
E. Shaw Ave 93710 evgo SAEBakersfield Nissan  2800 Pacheco Rd, Bakersfield, CA 
118.1 miles no SAE191 Soledad Canyon Rd Canyon Country, CA 81.1 miles or 102 
miles alternate route SAEOn Route 5:  510 N. Euclid St, Anaheim, CA map 58.5 
miles 1601 South Melrose Dr. Vista, CA 92081 69.4 miles 37 miles
This trip would be just possible in a Nissan Leaf.  CCS cars might have trouble 
in Bakersfield.
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Re: [EVDL] Employer EVSE installations vs. Free Lunch?

[Robert Bruninga via EV]

The time for free electricity for EV's should be past now.  At this point,
the benefits to EV's are so overwhelming (where there is a good match to
individual need) that free electricity only *detracts* from EV adoption by
creating EV animosity.

I'd far rather pay my employer $15/month and be ALLOWED to plug in to the
many 120v outlets that exist than to try to be a pain in the ass trying to
get a freebee.

If we bought an EV, we can afford the electricity.  Lets not shoot
ourselves in the foot by expecting or even asking for free juice when it
only brings up all kinds of burdensome issues (animosity, taxes, greed)...

And all that FREE electricity only creates FRICTION AND ANIMOSITY among EV
drivers when those that NEED a charge are blocked by those greedy people
trying to snitch a few cents of extra freebee who don't really need it.

Free EV charging HAS GOT TO GO!
It is UNSUSTAINABLE!

Thanks
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Re: [EVDL] Employer EVSE installations vs. Free Lunch?

[damon henry via EV]

There are many different scenarios.  I rode my electric motorcycle to work all 
summer long.  I drove right into the warehouse past all the warehouse workers 
and plugged into a normal 120v outlet that my boss said would be fine for me to 
use.  Everyone in the company thinks the bike is cool and no one complains 
about the free electricity my boss is willing to give me.
damon
> 
> > On Oct 15, 2015, at 1:59 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > The time for free electricity for EV's should be past now.  At this point,
> > the benefits to EV's are so overwhelming (where there is a good match to
> > individual need) that free electricity only *detracts* from EV adoption by
> > creating EV animosity.
> > 
> > I'd far rather pay my employer $15/month and be ALLOWED to plug in to the
> > many 120v outlets that exist than to try to be a pain in the ass trying to
> > get a freebee.
> > 
> > If we bought an EV, we can afford the electricity.  Lets not shoot
> > ourselves in the foot by expecting or even asking for free juice when it
> > only brings up all kinds of burdensome issues (animosity, taxes, greed)...
> > 
> > And all that FREE electricity only creates FRICTION AND ANIMOSITY among EV
> > drivers when those that NEED a charge are blocked by those greedy people
> > trying to snitch a few cents of extra freebee who don't really need it.
> > 
> > Free EV charging HAS GOT TO GO!
> > It is UNSUSTAINABLE!
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Bob, WB4aPR
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Re: [EVDL] Employer EVSE installations vs. Free Lunch?

[Cor van de Water via EV]

Almost all public charging that I encounter is no longer free. The reason that 
employers where no networked commercial chargers are installed (with good 
reason) typically refuse to arrange payment is because it is more hassle than 
the reward in recovered fees. It is cheaper to give the electricity away. 
BTW the reason to avoid networked chargers is the dependence on the company 
that maintains those chargers - the horror stories of companies no longer 
responding and chargers not working or the excessive fees while the employer 
provides the space as well as the electricity. So my advice is always to find 
someone - preferably one of the EVers - who manages the EVSE and maintenance 
and get a stand-alone charger. Of course the situation for a NEMA 5-20 outlet 
is simpler and essentially follows the same approach. 
Cor

> On Oct 15, 2015, at 1:59 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV  wrote:
> 
> The time for free electricity for EV's should be past now.  At this point,
> the benefits to EV's are so overwhelming (where there is a good match to
> individual need) that free electricity only *detracts* from EV adoption by
> creating EV animosity.
> 
> I'd far rather pay my employer $15/month and be ALLOWED to plug in to the
> many 120v outlets that exist than to try to be a pain in the ass trying to
> get a freebee.
> 
> If we bought an EV, we can afford the electricity.  Lets not shoot
> ourselves in the foot by expecting or even asking for free juice when it
> only brings up all kinds of burdensome issues (animosity, taxes, greed)...
> 
> And all that FREE electricity only creates FRICTION AND ANIMOSITY among EV
> drivers when those that NEED a charge are blocked by those greedy people
> trying to snitch a few cents of extra freebee who don't really need it.
> 
> Free EV charging HAS GOT TO GO!
> It is UNSUSTAINABLE!
> 
> Thanks
> Bob, WB4aPR
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[EVDL] Charging at College and work: Employer EVSE installations ...

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I had a similar yet different experience to Damon's.

Years before I had my Blazer EV, even before I worked at hp.  I had a choice
to make when I was just starting out after my Vietnam war era service (I was
lucky action didn't see me , but think of how big and easy a shoot-able
target I was). I needed to buy transportation for my 13 mile commute from
College to my work at Memorex's 'new' 5" double-sided floppy disk production
line.

My skinny 1970's budget let me choose between a Honda 50cc ice cub 
https://www.google.com/search?q=Honda+50cc+cub=isch
 or an Auranthetic Electric mini bike
https://www.google.com/search?q=auranthetic

I chose the Auranthetic but I paid extra to have two motors and higher
gearing. So, instead of a top speed of 15 mph with a range of 30 miles, I
had a top speed of 30 mph and a range of 15 miles. 

It still had the wimpy 7A on-board rectified-transformer-type charger
(extremely slow). I took the transformer out of a 12VDC 20Amp Sears
Automotive charger
http://www.electric-cars-are-for-girls.com/images/transformer-rectifier.jpg
 and added a bridge-rectifier in a configuration that allowed for a
center-tapped 24VDC that would charge each of the two 12V deep-cycle
lead-acid batteries.

This configuration pushed twice the output current the transformer was
designed for, thus over heated it. I put a 120VAC boxer fan on it to cool
it, and then mounted it to the rear rack so I could charge fast where ever I
found a (L1) 120VAC outlet.

I was able to secure charging at the College, so I was able to regain what I
used during my classes. From a far I saw the students passing by would
notice the Auranthetic, but not really spend much interest. Their main
thoughts were why I was allowed to plug into the College's outlet. I put a
paper notice on it explaining, but the students never spent time reading it.
So, though they were not angry or upset that I was allowed to plug in at
school, they did not think it was 'great', 'good', or cool.

After class, and an enjoyable Electric ride to work, I too pulled my
Electric mini bike inside the warehouse and was allowed to plug in.
Co-workers were not happy that such a Big Guy would ride such a smallish
bike (my knees were up banging against the handlebar on turns). They also
did not like that I was allowed to plug it in at work.

While no one unplugged or vandalized my ebike, I got plenty of daily dirty
looks and snarky ending comments when dealing with coworkers. The
Auranthetic served me well even after I was hired by hp. My wife drove the
ice, and rode the Auranthetic.

Much later when I got my Blazer EV from the converter, it was a different
story. 
An Electric Blazer (!?!), they thought 'That's cool!'.




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From: damon henry 
There are many different scenarios.  I rode my electric motorcycle to work
all summer long.  I drove right into the warehouse past all the warehouse
workers and plugged into a normal 120v outlet that my boss said would be
fine for me to use.  Everyone in the company thinks the bike is cool and no
one complains about the free electricity my boss is willing to give me.
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Re: [EVDL] Charging at College and work: Employer EVSE installations ...

[Peri Hartman via EV]

That's a very cool story, Bruce.  Glad you shared it.  I had no idea one 
could get an e-scooter back then - it certainly wasn't something that 
had even crossed my mind.  In spite of the skepticism that you mention, 
just think of the few people who saw what you did and were inspired and 
how that help get us where we are today.


Peri

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Subject: [EVDL] Charging at College and work: Employer EVSE 
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I had a similar yet different experience to Damon's.

Years before I had my Blazer EV, even before I worked at hp.  I had a 
choice
to make when I was just starting out after my Vietnam war era service 
(I was

lucky action didn't see me , but think of how big and easy a shoot-able
target I was). I needed to buy transportation for my 13 mile commute 
from
College to my work at Memorex's 'new' 5" double-sided floppy disk 
production

line.

My skinny 1970's budget let me choose between a Honda 50cc ice cub
https://www.google.com/search?q=Honda+50cc+cub=isch
 or an Auranthetic Electric mini bike
https://www.google.com/search?q=auranthetic

I chose the Auranthetic but I paid extra to have two motors and higher
gearing. So, instead of a top speed of 15 mph with a range of 30 miles, 
I

had a top speed of 30 mph and a range of 15 miles.

It still had the wimpy 7A on-board rectified-transformer-type charger
(extremely slow). I took the transformer out of a 12VDC 20Amp Sears
Automotive charger
http://www.electric-cars-are-for-girls.com/images/transformer-rectifier.jpg
 and added a bridge-rectifier in a configuration that allowed for a
center-tapped 24VDC that would charge each of the two 12V deep-cycle
lead-acid batteries.

This configuration pushed twice the output current the transformer was
designed for, thus over heated it. I put a 120VAC boxer fan on it to 
cool
it, and then mounted it to the rear rack so I could charge fast where 
ever I

found a (L1) 120VAC outlet.

I was able to secure charging at the College, so I was able to regain 
what I

used during my classes. From a far I saw the students passing by would
notice the Auranthetic, but not really spend much interest. Their main
thoughts were why I was allowed to plug into the College's outlet. I 
put a
paper notice on it explaining, but the students never spent time 
reading it.
So, though they were not angry or upset that I was allowed to plug in 
at

school, they did not think it was 'great', 'good', or cool.

After class, and an enjoyable Electric ride to work, I too pulled my
Electric mini bike inside the warehouse and was allowed to plug in.
Co-workers were not happy that such a Big Guy would ride such a 
smallish
bike (my knees were up banging against the handlebar on turns). They 
also

did not like that I was allowed to plug it in at work.

While no one unplugged or vandalized my ebike, I got plenty of daily 
dirty

looks and snarky ending comments when dealing with coworkers. The
Auranthetic served me well even after I was hired by hp. My wife drove 
the

ice, and rode the Auranthetic.

Much later when I got my Blazer EV from the converter, it was a 
different

story.
An Electric Blazer (!?!), they thought 'That's cool!'.




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http://evdl.org/evln/


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From: damon henry
There are many different scenarios.  I rode my electric motorcycle to 
work
all summer long.  I drove right into the warehouse past all the 
warehouse
workers and plugged into a normal 120v outlet that my boss said would 
be
fine for me to use.  Everyone in the company thinks the bike is cool 
and no

one complains about the free electricity my boss is willing to give me.
-

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