Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-26 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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[EVDL] 14k Volt-pih jobs cut= quiet-death rip> GM sold only enough 2lead

2018-12-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-26 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
We’ve made incredible progress over just the last few years in greening the grid. By 2045, it should be 100% renewable. By 2030, transportation hydrogen should be 100% renewable. (BTW, if you think that nothing else has changed in hydrogen technology in the last several years, there is someth

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20181228

2018-12-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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2018-12-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: (spied)> HMC Jazz EV on roads.in

2018-12-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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2018-12-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: PV-EV efficiency record> 4,100 km Australian trip

2018-12-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: Penske Truck Leasing Daimler Freightliner eM2 e-Trucks

2018-12-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] Every 1912 woman longs to own an Electric> comfort, convenience, prestige

2018-12-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-26 Thread Willie via EV
On 12/26/18 7:02 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Certainly good points about infrastructure. But when you look at costs at scale, I understand a recent study showed hydrogen to be cheaper, by 3 to 1. That astonishing claim DEMANDS a citation. _

Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-26 Thread Rod Hower via EV
"To have a large number of businesses supporting an unknown technology makes me suspicious."  That is the best explanation for hydrogen.   On ‎Wednesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎26‎, ‎2018‎ ‎08‎:‎07‎:‎43‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Certainly good points about infrastructure. But wh

Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-26 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Certainly good points about infrastructure. But when you look at costs at scale, I understand a recent study showed hydrogen to be cheaper, by 3 to 1. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Dec 26, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > > To be clear, I find fuel cells fasc

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-26 Thread paul dove via EV
but stop trying to take over BEV. It works. It will win. > Stop the hydrogen diversion. Wishes are not reality. Solar cars are probably > the future but so far few believe me. Lawrence Rhodes > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachmen

[EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
To be clear, I find fuel cells fascinating technology. I don't know how much potential improvement is possible and I support continuing research to find out. That's different from supporting a build out of a hydrogen infrastructure. There is significant cost to do so and, to be effective, it wi

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I won't dismiss H2 quite as hard and fast as Lawrence just did, but I think he's mostly on the right track. Twenty years ago I thought that, despite its appreciably greater complexity and cost, potential safety issues, and lower efficiency, H2 might be the "magic bullet" for the range that ve

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-26 Thread Darryl McMahon via EV
We don't have to guess at the California electricity mix. https://www.energy.ca.gov/almanac/electricity_data/total_system_power.html (rounding to nearest percent for simplicity) 29% from renewables other than large hydro 15% from large hydro 9% from nuclear (not renewable, but reasonably low

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-26 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-26 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
not reality. Solar cars are probably the future but so far few believe me. Lawrence Rhodes  -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20181226/d9e