I thought your 85% was the people owning BEVs that also had solar. Or was it
the amount of charging, or both?
I think that amount of home charging varies widely. Some charge at home
entirely, some charge elsewhere most of the time.
And those charging at night during the winter may be using the
How are they producing H2 that doesn't require 4x as much electricity per mile
as an EV?
I mean other than steam reforming natural gas which isn't renewable and also
isn't particularly clean.
June 3, 2020 8:32 PM, "evln via EV" wrote:
> https://thedriven.io/2020/06/04/hydrogen-cars-wont-overt
Factual piece on hydrogen cost and fuel cells cars in Scientific American:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lack-of-cheap-clean-hydrogen-slows-fuel-cell-cars/
Bill D.
On 6/5/2020 7:39 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Me, neither. I'm just trying to figure out how they came up with their
I’ve not yet seen the claim from them.
But the supposed source, a study done by a university, funded by the industry,
needs to be taken in context.
From looking at just the summary, the goal of the study was “to perform a
detailed design analysis of the required infrastructure for supplying ba
True for public EVSE, But the flip side to your arguments are that 85% of
all charging is at home. And it is no coincidence that the vast majority of
people who buy EV's doso for the future and so they are also mostly the
people that subscribe to clean electricity. Why else would one put up with
Me, neither. I'm just trying to figure out how they came up with their
incredulous claim !
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I wonder how fuels cells would compare to EVs if you compared sourcing
hydrogen from natural gas to generating electricity from natural gas.
That is, show the loss scenarios like this:
natural gas well > refine to hydrogen > compress & transport > fuel cell
> EV drive train
natural gas well >
That’s a great point.
Not taking away from the point:
- I’m not sure that your numbers are not old.
- Given the demand for non-household EVSE, people are charging using the grid
mix no matter what they use at home.
- as the mix of renewables to fossils on the grid change, most will be
chargi
The #1 problem with most CO2 assessments of EV emissions is they take the
Grid mix (say 65% coal and Natural gas, etc) and apply that to the EV while
surveys show that 85% of EV buyers also *BUY* 100% clean electricity either
from their own solar panels, or by signing up for Wind from their utility
So glad to see an article that clearly blasts the myth of fuel cells.
It's about time that people wake up and realize that you don't capture
hydrogen by swishing around large sacks on top of mountains.
On the other hand, to be more complete, I think the article (or some
article) should also ta
https://carbuzz.com/news/tesla-model-3-driver-slams-into-a-brick-wall
Tesla Model 3 Driver Slams Into A Brick Wall
May 31, 2020 ... in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, a Model 3 crashed into a
building of a local shopping center late last week and, fortunately, no one
was injured, including the dri
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