Re: [EVDL] HPEVS selling in Russia, tacky.

2014-07-31 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Agree it is off-topic and must go to a different list not the EVDL.
Just want to point out that almost 200 of the 298 passengers were
(fellow) Dutchmen because the plane made a trip from Amsterdam to
Malaysia.

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Subject: Re: [EVDL] HPEVS selling in Russia, tacky.

 You probably didn't loose any friends or relatives on the downing of
the
 Malayan airlines by Putin backed terrorists...

Can we please take this to some other forum? It is certainly off-topic,
and of little interest to those of us who live outside the US.

 If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular
error. -- John Kenneth Galbraith
 Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op 

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[EVDL] HPEVS selling in Russia, tacky.

2014-07-30 Thread Cruisin via EV
A internet list is showing that Brian Seymore at HPEVS is selling to dealers
in Russia
 i.e. Phone: (495) 984-96-19  website: www.ecomotors.ru
When we are trying to hurt Russia financially for killing people, HPEVS is
reported to be selling to the Russian dealer. Is this a good or bad thing? I
think it is something to be ashamed of.



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Re: [EVDL] HPEVS selling in Russia, tacky.

2014-07-30 Thread Collin Kidder via EV
Personally I would hope to keep politics out of it. But, how would not
selling to a Russian EV dealer hurt Putin exactly? This seems to be a
deeply personal decision that every business owner should make for their
own company.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Cruisin via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 A internet list is showing that Brian Seymore at HPEVS is selling to
 dealers
 in Russia
  i.e. Phone: (495) 984-96-19  website: www.ecomotors.ru
 When we are trying to hurt Russia financially for killing people, HPEVS is
 reported to be selling to the Russian dealer. Is this a good or bad thing?
 I
 think it is something to be ashamed of.



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Re: [EVDL] HPEVS selling in Russia, tacky.

2014-07-30 Thread Cruisin via EV
You probably didn't loose any friends or relatives on the downing of the
Malayan airlines by Putin backed terrorists, I did. How do you change what
the leader of a country does, through the people like we did in WWll. Why do
you think the US is doing what we are doing, to wake up the people. This is
not Politics, in is supporting the American people. Apparently, you think we
should look the other way while company's sell and make money. You say it
should be their personal decision, hog wash. You appear not to support the
US Government or the safety of the American people. This is not politics,
right or left, its the American way, or at least it should be.



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Re: [EVDL] HPEVS selling in Russia, tacky.

2014-07-30 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Cruisin via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 You probably didn't loose any friends or relatives on the downing of the
 Malayan airlines by Putin backed terrorists, I did.

I'm sorry for your loss, but, before we start on a witch hunt...do you know if 
the Russian dealer is actually authorized? Do you know when the partnership (if 
any) started? Have you contacted HPEVS to see if this is even something that's 
on their radar? Also, note that there're a few more people in Russia than just 
Putin -- and that the latest rounds of sanctions are targeting Russia's fossil 
fuels industry. Having an American company positioned to help push the Russian 
economy away from Putin's oil power base and towards American-supplied EVs 
could be a very strategic move.

I rather doubt that the people at HPEVS are a bunch of pinko Commie 
Putin-lovers.

Cheers,

b
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Re: [EVDL] HPEVS selling in Russia, tacky.

2014-07-30 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
 You probably didn't loose any friends or relatives on the downing of the
 Malayan airlines by Putin backed terrorists...

Can we please take this to some other forum? It is certainly off-topic, and of 
little interest to those of us who live outside the US.

 If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. 
-- John Kenneth Galbraith
 Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op 

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