Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-10 Thread paul dove via EV
LOL Tesla I mean Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 10, 2016, at 1:58 PM, paul dove via EV wrote: > > I don't think anyone besides Tessa will reach 200,000 cars any time soon. > Nissan only sold 10,000 this year and 90,000 in 5 years. At that rate it will > be at least another 6

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-10 Thread paul dove via EV
I don't think anyone besides Tessa will reach 200,000 cars any time soon. Nissan only sold 10,000 this year and 90,000 in 5 years. At that rate it will be at least another 6 years unless sales jump dramatically. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 10, 2016, at 7:47 AM, Rush Dougherty via EV

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-10 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Seth asked - > > My one question (directly ) on this topic is, will the $7500 tax *credit* for new 2016 purchases > which can be claimed in April 2017 be at risk? From http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/3-things-president-trump-electric-cars.htm l 1. Let the $7,500 EV tax credit go extinct

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-10 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
I really don't think the credit for a 2016 purchase would be at risk. To do that, they would have to pass a law in 2017 that was retroactive to 2016. It could be done, but that is very bad form. I think the businesses would revolt. Now, will the credit still be in place for 2017 or 2018

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-10 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Here's an article from Chelsea Sexton that address the subject of Trump and EV's https://evchels.wordpress.com/2016/11/09/for-evs-work-trumps-hope/ In the article there are some links, one of which lists what Trump will probably do about EV's 1. Let the $7,500 EV tax credit go extinct 2. Neuter

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-10 Thread Seth Rothenberg via EV
My one question (directly ) on this topic is, will the $7500 tax *credit* for new 2016 purchases which can be claimed in April 2017 be at risk? That might weigh on the balance between a new Leaf and a used Tesla. A used Tesla already has had the incentive redeemed. I'll have to check the prices

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-10 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
cle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's Date: 11/9/16, 9:28 PM And, in fact, he has said that he believes UV AV Sent from AltaMail From: Jim Walls via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Rush Dougherty" <r...@ironandwood.org>,

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
And, in fact, he has said that he believes UV AV Sent from AltaMail From: Jim Walls via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Rush Dougherty" <r...@ironandwood.org>,"Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV'

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread paul dove via EV
government. And what about the road tax, since EV’s don’t > buy gas, they don’t pay road tax… > > > > Rush Dougherty > > Tucson AZ 85719 > > > > From: Peri Hartman [mailto:pe...@kotatko.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 4:14 PM > To: Ru

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Impeachment: that would be a first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Lee Hart via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Sent: 09-Nov-16 8:49

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Robert Pike via EV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoravkGb6Lg On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Bill Woodcock via EV wrote: > > > On Nov 9, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV > wrote: > > I seriously wonder if the people on this list… who voted for trump > realize the

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread David Nelson via EV
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: > Peri and all, > > > And what about the road tax, since EV’s don’t buy gas, they don’t pay > road tax… > > Really? I pay $150/year for my 830lbs 3-wheeled single passenger Gizmo! My per mile tax rate last year was

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Hoegberg via EV
> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 16:22:48 -0800 > To: j...@k6ccc.org; ev@lists.evdl.org > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's > From: ev@lists.evdl.org > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Jim Walls via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Jim wrote - > -Original Message- > From: Jim Walls [mailto:j...@k6ccc.org] > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 4:43 PM > To: Rush Dougherty; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's > > Not trying to agree or disagree, but remember th

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
EV’s don’t buy gas, they don’t pay road tax… Rush Dougherty Tucson AZ 85719 From: Peri Hartman [mailto:pe...@kotatko.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 4:14 PM To: Rush Dougherty; 'Bill Woodcock'; 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Subject: Re[2]: [EVDL] Trump and EV's I'm

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread ROBERT via EV
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's > On Nov 9, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > I seriously wonder if the people on this list... who voted for trump realize > the mess that he is going to put us in. Is that not the null set, seriously?

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
l Woodcock'" <wo...@pch.net>; "'Electric Vehicle Discussion >List'" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >Cc: >Sent: 09-Nov-16 3:01:20 PM >Subject: Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's > >>Here is one of the things Trump has said that he is going to do in his > >>first 100 >&g

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Thos True via EV
uot; <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: "'Bill Woodcock'" <wo...@pch.net>; "'Electric Vehicle Discussion > List'" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: > Sent: 09-Nov-16 3:01:20 PM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's > > Here is one of the things Trump has said

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ssion List'" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Sent: 09-Nov-16 3:01:20 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's Here is one of the things Trump has said that he is going to do in his first 100 days - "FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars' worth of jo

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Thos True via EV
It does not even begin to end at the EV / PV level. You can expect an effort to repeal any and all EPA regulations, among others. I dare say that we have dipped our toe into the perverbial Pandora's box of reality the likes of which we may never have imagined. Buckle up folks, this looks to be a

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
ehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's > > > > On Nov 9, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > I seriously wonder if the people on this list. who voted for trump realize > > the > > mess that he is

Re: [EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Bill Woodcock via EV
> On Nov 9, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: > I seriously wonder if the people on this list… who voted for trump realize > the mess that he is going to put us in. Is that not the null set, seriously? -Bill --

[EVDL] Trump and EV's

2016-11-09 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Here's just one article about Turnip's view on climate change - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/11/09/trump-victo ry-reverses-u-s-energy-and-environmental-priorities/?tid=pm_business_pop_b "Although Trump has portrayed himself as the ultimate outsider, in putting