Re: [EVDL] EVangel-about: segs4vets.ngo converts-Segways 4disabled veterans

2019-01-19 Thread Willie via EV




On 1/19/19 11:49 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:

I'm aiming somewhat lower-tech. She wants to be able to get around 
outside, over grass and snow, on trails, and over curbs and other minor 
obstacles. And, it is to be light enough for her to get it in and out of 
the car herself.


I had some brief experience with the Travel Scoot.  My comments:
1) fine for only very smooth surfaces; tires too small and solid
2) pricey for what it is
3) un-sprung, rough riding
4) one wheel drive. unsuited for any marginal traction situation

Something like a Travel Scoot with bigger, softer tires might be 
serviceable.  Be sure to inform us of what you settle on.



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Re: [EVDL] EVangel-about: segs4vets.ngo converts-Segways 4disabled veterans

2019-01-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV

brucedp5 via EV wrote:

{I'm trying to postpone having to use a e-mobility cart as long as I can,
but I know it is in my future as each step is large amount of arthritic
pain. But as I push through the pain (not unlike a young man feeling an
exercise-burn of trying to build his muscles/to get the girl, etc.), each
time I see a vet that has to use an e-mobility aid from a lost limb, I
persevere harder to use the body I was given as long as I can.}


Bruce, my hopes and prayers are with you. You've been a guiding light on 
this list for years. May you have many more ahead.


My sister-in-law has the same problems with arthritis, and can barel 
walk. I've been working on a mobility cart for her special needs. I'm 
not going to try for something self-balancing, as if something goes 
wrong, it could be a disaster. But of course the Segway company has 
spent a lot of money and engineering to get it to work.


I'm aiming somewhat lower-tech. She wants to be able to get around 
outside, over grass and snow, on trails, and over curbs and other minor 
obstacles. And, it is to be light enough for her to get it in and out of 
the car herself.


My first try is a 4-wheel cart, about 30 lbs. But it needs bigger 
wheels, so I'm working on a 2nd try.


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Re: [EVDL] EVangel-about: segs4vets.ngo converts-Segways 4disabled veterans

2019-01-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Very cool. I can imagine that having 2 wheels instead of 4 greatly 
simplifies maneuvering and stability on bad surfaces. And I bet it's 
possible to design something that can climb stairs.


Kudos to you, Bruce, for all the efforts you go through. Keep up the 
great EV work !


Peri

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Subject: [EVDL] EVangel-about: segs4vets.ngo converts-Segways 4disabled 
veterans




% Yesterday I had another VA Hospital appointment. I arrived a little early
as used my (issued) rollator/walker to head in from the crowded parking lot
to the main entrance. This day's experience had far less (old) vets roaming
the corridors/hallways in (issued) e-mobility scooters.

{I'm trying to postpone having to use a e-mobility cart as long as I can,
but I know it is in my future as each step is large amount of arthritic
pain. But as I push through the pain (not unlike a young man feeling an
exercise-burn of trying to build his muscles/to get the girl, etc.), each
time I see a vet that has to use an e-mobility aid from a lost limb, I
persevere harder to use the body I was given as long as I can.}


After my (cardio-echo scan) appointment, and I was heading out of the VA
hospital, I saw what looked like a self-balancing wheel-chair (but with
Segway size and style wheels), being used by a young vet [
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/6bc0c4_90f74eabec7540bdac9e4e8b9fecb798.jpg
].  It looked like he and the chair were in tune with each other (like it
was now a part of his body), as he controlled it quite well.

I was lucky enough to catch up with Guillermo Tejada (GySgt. USMC Ret.,
Warrior Board Member) [
https://www.segs4vets.ngo/leadership?lightbox=i6f2u
]. He let me know he worked with an organization/group [
https://segs4vets.ngo
] that converts/modifies Segways for Veteran's use.

Looking at their website, veterans with service related
injuries/disabilities (from difficulty walking, to dysfunctional or missing
lower limbs, +more) [
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/6bc0c4_ba5f8d1180c046b6a26ceedbfc6946ca~mv2_d_4805_3203_s_4_2.jpg

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/6bc0c4_5e540896b8ef47d7843f650006735349~mv2_d_5760_3840_s_4_2.jpg
] use these converted/ modified Segways as their e-mobility.

Below I have several links to explore relating to segs4vets.ngo efforts as
well as past Segway newswires.
%


[dated]
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/segs4vegs-reaches-horse-racing-assist-disabled-riders/
Segs4Vets Reaches Out To Horse Racing To Assist Disabled Riders
08.15.2017  Ray Paulick

[images
https://www.paulickreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Segs4Vets-Anne-Von-Rosen.jpg
Jockey Anne Von Rosen, with U.S. military veterans during a winner's circle
ceremony at Del Mar

https://www.paulickreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Anne-Von-Rosen-Stacy-Campo.jpg
Anne Von Rosen, with Stacy Campo, Zach Reeves of Segs4Vets and her dog Lily
]

Anne Von Rosen has a new ride, but she'd rather it be on a horse.

Her legs paralyzed in a March 11, 2014, spill at Turf Paradise in Phoenix,
Ariz., Von Rosen was in Del Mar, Calif., last week to receive a retrofitted
Segway personal transporter from the parent company of Segs4Vets [
https://www.segs4vets.ngo/
], an all-volunteer, non-profit organization that has provided more than
1,600 Segways to assist men and women in the U.S. military who returned home
with severe wounds suffered during their service in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“It's pretty cool because you have your hands free,” Von Rosen said of the
ALLY chair, which is built on a Segway frame and allows the user to go
forward or backwards by using their core – leaning in the direction they
want to go. A stick serves as a steering device.

“But I'm not going to sit in a wheelchair the rest of my life,” Rosen said
with conviction. “I'm going to walk again.”

Von Rosen was accompanied to Del Mar by her friend, trainer Stacy Campo, and
her faithful canine companion, Lily, who seemed to enjoy riding on Von
Rosen's lap as she moved around on the ALLY chair during a training session
given by Segs4Vets volunteers.

A native of Germany, Von Rosen was chosen to be the first disabled jockey
recipient of an ALLY chair through discussions with the Permanently Disabled
Jockeys Fund and Jockeys' Guild. The chair was purchased thanks to donations
of horsemen at Del Mar racetrack.

Segway ALLY chairs are not cheap, costing approximately $15,000 each.
Segs4Vets is part of DRAFT (Disability Rights Advocates for Technology) and
began in 2005 as a grassroots effort to provide seriously wounded service
men and women every resource available to become as independent as possible.
Every dollar donated to Segs4Vets goes toward getting a disabled veteran
into a Segway or ALLY chair, the latter of which was developed in 2014 for
those veterans who could not use a sta

[EVDL] EVangel-about: segs4vets.ngo converts-Segways 4disabled veterans

2019-01-19 Thread brucedp5 via EV

% Yesterday I had another VA Hospital appointment. I arrived a little early
as used my (issued) rollator/walker to head in from the crowded parking lot
to the main entrance. This day's experience had far less (old) vets roaming
the corridors/hallways in (issued) e-mobility scooters. 

{I'm trying to postpone having to use a e-mobility cart as long as I can,
but I know it is in my future as each step is large amount of arthritic
pain. But as I push through the pain (not unlike a young man feeling an
exercise-burn of trying to build his muscles/to get the girl, etc.), each
time I see a vet that has to use an e-mobility aid from a lost limb, I
persevere harder to use the body I was given as long as I can.}


After my (cardio-echo scan) appointment, and I was heading out of the VA
hospital, I saw what looked like a self-balancing wheel-chair (but with
Segway size and style wheels), being used by a young vet [
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/6bc0c4_90f74eabec7540bdac9e4e8b9fecb798.jpg
].  It looked like he and the chair were in tune with each other (like it
was now a part of his body), as he controlled it quite well.

I was lucky enough to catch up with Guillermo Tejada (GySgt. USMC Ret.,
Warrior Board Member) [
https://www.segs4vets.ngo/leadership?lightbox=i6f2u 
]. He let me know he worked with an organization/group [
https://segs4vets.ngo
] that converts/modifies Segways for Veteran's use. 

Looking at their website, veterans with service related
injuries/disabilities (from difficulty walking, to dysfunctional or missing
lower limbs, +more) [
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/6bc0c4_ba5f8d1180c046b6a26ceedbfc6946ca~mv2_d_4805_3203_s_4_2.jpg

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/6bc0c4_5e540896b8ef47d7843f650006735349~mv2_d_5760_3840_s_4_2.jpg
] use these converted/ modified Segways as their e-mobility.

Below I have several links to explore relating to segs4vets.ngo efforts as
well as past Segway newswires.
%


[dated]  
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/segs4vegs-reaches-horse-racing-assist-disabled-riders/
Segs4Vets Reaches Out To Horse Racing To Assist Disabled Riders
08.15.2017  Ray Paulick

[images  
https://www.paulickreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Segs4Vets-Anne-Von-Rosen.jpg
Jockey Anne Von Rosen, with U.S. military veterans during a winner's circle
ceremony at Del Mar

https://www.paulickreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Anne-Von-Rosen-Stacy-Campo.jpg
Anne Von Rosen, with Stacy Campo, Zach Reeves of Segs4Vets and her dog Lily
]

Anne Von Rosen has a new ride, but she'd rather it be on a horse.

Her legs paralyzed in a March 11, 2014, spill at Turf Paradise in Phoenix,
Ariz., Von Rosen was in Del Mar, Calif., last week to receive a retrofitted
Segway personal transporter from the parent company of Segs4Vets [
https://www.segs4vets.ngo/
], an all-volunteer, non-profit organization that has provided more than
1,600 Segways to assist men and women in the U.S. military who returned home
with severe wounds suffered during their service in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“It's pretty cool because you have your hands free,” Von Rosen said of the
ALLY chair, which is built on a Segway frame and allows the user to go
forward or backwards by using their core – leaning in the direction they
want to go. A stick serves as a steering device.

“But I'm not going to sit in a wheelchair the rest of my life,” Rosen said
with conviction. “I'm going to walk again.”

Von Rosen was accompanied to Del Mar by her friend, trainer Stacy Campo, and
her faithful canine companion, Lily, who seemed to enjoy riding on Von
Rosen's lap as she moved around on the ALLY chair during a training session
given by Segs4Vets volunteers.

A native of Germany, Von Rosen was chosen to be the first disabled jockey
recipient of an ALLY chair through discussions with the Permanently Disabled
Jockeys Fund and Jockeys' Guild. The chair was purchased thanks to donations
of horsemen at Del Mar racetrack.

Segway ALLY chairs are not cheap, costing approximately $15,000 each.
Segs4Vets is part of DRAFT (Disability Rights Advocates for Technology) and
began in 2005 as a grassroots effort to provide seriously wounded service
men and women every resource available to become as independent as possible.
Every dollar donated to Segs4Vets goes toward getting a disabled veteran
into a Segway or ALLY chair, the latter of which was developed in 2014 for
those veterans who could not use a standing Segway.

At Del Mar on Saturday, two wounded veterans were given ALLY chairs in a
winner's circle ceremony that also included Von Rosen receiving her chair. A
$50,000 challenge grant was received at the Del Mar event, that attracted
many previous ALLY chair recipients and former service men and women from
the San Diego area, including retired Marine Col. Harvey C. Barnum Jr.,
recipient of the Medal of Honor for valor during the Vietnam War. Rep.
Darrell Issa, who represents California's 69th district, also attended the
event. Among the horse racing p