Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-04 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Willie via EV wrote: On 4/4/20 12:06 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I can't give you any specifics, but how much weight and space in that Chevy Colorado is devoted to safety - quite a bit. I don't know either. Pickups have never been known for being safe vehicles, though. This seem

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-04 Thread Willie via EV
On 4/4/20 12:06 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I can't give you any specifics, but how much weight and space in that Chevy Colorado is devoted to safety - quite a bit. I don't know either. Pickups have never been known for being safe vehicles, though. This seems like a good place t

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Apr 2020 at 23:54, Jim Walls via EV wrote: > Actually it's personal, not work.  That sounds like an expensive hobby. I'm guessing that the fuel tax is only the beginning. But then, EVs can be an expensive hobby too. > I can well imagine the performance of a vehicle that can carry 1.4 t

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-04 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
>On 3 Apr 2020 at 19:03, Jim Walls via EV wrote: > >> My truck gets about 12 mpg, so 1,250 gallons or $1,062.50 total of >> which $832.50 is state tax. Hmm, my truck gets about 600Wh/Mile. Supercab, 4wd, long bed. Current (old) batteries give it about a 60 mile range, If I used new batteries, I

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 04/03/2020 22:12, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 3 Apr 2020 at 19:03, Jim Walls via EV wrote: My truck gets about 12 mpg, so 1,250 gallons or $1,062.50 total of which $832.50 is state tax. That's a fair bit, but it seems to me that it might not be all that unfair or unreasonable. Your

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread Paul Compton via EV
The rule of thumb is that damage to the road structure goes up in proportion to the square of the axle load. On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 06:12, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > > On 3 Apr 2020 at 19:03, Jim Walls via EV wrote: > > > My truck gets about 12 mpg, so 1,250 gallons or $1,062.50 total of >

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Apr 2020 at 19:03, Jim Walls via EV wrote: > My truck gets about 12 mpg, so 1,250 gallons or $1,062.50 total of > which $832.50 is state tax. That's a fair bit, but it seems to me that it might not be all that unfair or unreasonable. Your big truck causes a lot more road wear and environ

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 04/03/2020 20:32, Peri Hartman wrote: Hmm. 15000 miles at 12mpg. That's 1250 gallons. At nominally $3/gal, that's 3750. On gasoline cost alone, 10 years would buy you a nice EV - model 3 or Bolt, for example. Ok, I'm not being quite fair since you do have to pay for electricity. But you also

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ance. You know the arguments, of course :) Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Jim Walls via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Jim Walls" Sent: 03-Apr-20 7:03:03 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction Trying this one again. Sent it this morning, but just got a fa

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread Jim Walls via EV
Trying this one again.  Sent it this morning, but just got a failure message... On 04/03/2020 09:29, paul dove wrote: Well then . highest in the country it $58.7 a gallon. 6000 miles divided by 30 mpg is 200 gallons at 59 cents that's $116 Let's try the correct numbers.  California cur

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread paul dove via EV
That's the only point of the tax. and he made the claim of 6000 miles not me On Friday, April 3, 2020, 2:47:11 PM CDT, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 3 Apr 2020 at 16:29, paul dove via EV wrote: > 6000 miles divided by 30 mpg is 200 gallons at 59 cents that's $116 How many peopl

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Apr 2020 at 16:29, paul dove via EV wrote: > 6000 miles divided by 30 mpg is 200 gallons at 59 cents that's $116 How many people do you know who drive only 6000 miles per year? > Gasoline tax is used to maintain roadways not clean the air. That's beside the point. EVs benefit society. G

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread paul dove via EV
Gasoline tax is used to maintain roadways not clean the air. On Friday, April 3, 2020, 12:05:42 PM CDT, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 3 Apr 2020 at 9:23, Jim Walls via EV wrote: > I WISH I only paid $200 per year in gas tax!  I pay that much in gas > taxes every couple months.

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread paul dove via EV
Well then . highest in the country it $58.7 a gallon. 6000 miles divided by 30 mpg is 200 gallons at 59 cents that's $116 On Friday, April 3, 2020, 11:24:06 AM CDT, Jim Walls via EV wrote: On 04/03/2020 08:53, Rod Hower via EV wrote: > Ohio is one of several US states that impose t

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 3 Apr 2020 at 9:23, Jim Walls via EV wrote: > I WISH I only paid $200 per year in gas tax!  I pay that much in gas > taxes every couple months. Ohio gasoline tax is $.355 per gallon. If you drive 15000 mi/yr at 30mpg, that's 500 gallons or $192.50 per year. BUT EV drivers SHOULD pay less

Re: [EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 04/03/2020 08:53, Rod Hower via EV wrote: Ohio is one of several US states that impose taxes on EVs that are far higher than the amount paid in gas taxes by a typical driver of a legacy vehicle. A recently introduced bill aims to change that. Ohio’s current EV tax, which was enacted in 2019

[EVDL] Ohio EV tax reduction

2020-04-03 Thread Rod Hower via EV
Ohio is one of several US states that impose taxes on EVs that are far higher than the amount paid in gas taxes by a typical driver of a legacy vehicle. A recently introduced bill aims to change that. Ohio’s current EV tax, which was enacted in 2019, imposes anannual fee of $200 on electric dr