Re: [EVDL] Question about amp-hr

2014-07-10 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
Larry - You are right. Amp-hours on its own doesn't really mean much at all. Except, of course, that most modern EVs have battery/traction packs in the ~300V bracket and most batteries used in such vehicles have cell voltages in ~3-4V range so, depending on the context, an Ah rating gives the

Re: [EVDL] Question about amp-hr

2014-07-10 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
That is right, Kilo Watt Hours is the proper trom for total energy quanity. the voltage and the ampere hours are terms best quantified by the system design engineer. If you are qualified to design you understand the ratios of voltage and maximum current draw versus the demand of the load. As well

Re: [EVDL] Question about amp-hr

2014-07-10 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
[mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Larry Gales via EV Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 11:18 PM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: [EVDL] Question about amp-hr I know that watts = amps * volts, and watt-hours (wh) is a measure of energy, but over and over again I hear people talking about EV

Re: [EVDL] Question about amp-hr

2014-07-10 Thread Roger Stockton via EV
Cor van de Water wrote: Reason is that Li-Ion batteries are sized by Ah so it is normal to say what size (Ah) battery cells you have, if you want to indicate which version cells are in your pack, but if you want to tell the energy in the pack then it only makes sense if you tell (or know)

[EVDL] Question about amp-hr

2014-07-09 Thread Larry Gales via EV
I know that watts = amps * volts, and watt-hours (wh) is a measure of energy, but over and over again I hear people talking about EV batteries in terms of amp-hours. What does that mean if you don't know the voltage? 1000 amp-hr is not impressive if the voltage is, say, 0.1 volts. Is

Re: [EVDL] Question about amp-hr

2014-07-09 Thread Michael Ross via EV
Larry, YMMV. The energy capacity, Amp Hrs, of a cell is very useful and you need to know the nominal cell voltage to go very far with it. Indeed you can get 200AmpHr at 3.2 V, no problem, as an example. 2 cells in parallel gets you the sum of amp hrs at the nominal voltage. 2 cells in series

Re: [EVDL] Question about amp-hr

2014-07-09 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
Heck, to draw 10uV at 1000A would be an interesting application. In any event you are right. 1000Ah rating only makes sense as a power value if you know the battery so you know then that 1000Ah is really 12,000Wh for a 12v nominal battery. What people mostly like to know about EV batteries

Re: [EVDL] Question about amp-hr

2014-07-09 Thread Ben Apollonio via EV
People talk in amp-hours because it's easy and/or they're being sloppy. Batteries are sold in standardized packages (1 cell @ 3.6V for lithium, 3 or 6 cells at 6V or 12V for lead) at which amp-hours is the metric used to differentiate different capacities. But when you build a big series