Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... LEDs (update)

2018-07-27 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: UPDATE: For grins, I had the LEDs from a second bulb. It fully illuminated at the same 80 volts over 14 LEDs at 60 mA, but was 100% linear among the LEDs. Every one of the LEDs started dim and ramped up linearly and identical to each other just as one would expect

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... LEDs (update)

2018-07-27 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
List Cc: Robert Bruninga Subject: RE: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... LEDs > If you're running the LEDs on 120vac, the voltage drop needed is much larger. The 60W equivalent I just took apart had a full 14 LEDs in series but still used a PWM controller. It took 80 volts DC to

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... LEDs

2018-07-27 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Again, it was the LED board only.. No other parts other than the 14 white LED's in series. -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 1:43 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Lee Hart Subject: Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... LEDs

2018-07-27 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: The 60W equivalent I just took apart had a full 14 LEDs in series but still used a PWM controller. It took 80 volts DC to get the LED's to their proper brilliance. So just a small resistor will do. Right. And a rectifier. :-) 80/120v means a simple series

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... LEDs

2018-07-27 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> If you're running the LEDs on 120vac, the voltage drop needed is much larger. The 60W equivalent I just took apart had a full 14 LEDs in series but still used a PWM controller. It took 80 volts DC to get the LED's to their proper brilliance. So just a small resistor will do. This is just the

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... (bad LED power ckts)

2018-07-26 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: I am now seeing LED bulb failures. A total of 6 so far, and every one of them is not the LED's but the power circuit. I run them through a band saw to remove the "pingpong" plastic dome and remove two screws and the flat LED PCB Simply unplugs from pins on the

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ...

2018-07-26 Thread Lee Hart via EV
ROBERT via EV wrote: The other advance that made LED lighting possible was low cost PWM LED drivers on a chip or with few components. Even today an LED cannot take a continuous high current. I agree with Cor. LED prices and efficiency have improved markedly, which is what has made them

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... (bad LED power ckts)

2018-07-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
themselves are always good. I use the LED circuit board as-is in other lower voltage lighting projects. Bob -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of ROBERT via EV Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 6:56 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: ROBERT ; brucedp5 Subject: Re: [EVDL]

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ...

2018-07-26 Thread ROBERT via EV
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Cor van de Water; brucedp5 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... Bruce, If you ever saw the old LEDs, I received one from my dad in the early 80s and while their life is astonishing, they will run for decades and still work

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ...

2018-07-25 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 3:56 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Cor van de Water; brucedp5 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ... The other advance that made LED lighting possible was low cost PWM LED drivers on a chip or with few components.  Even today an LED

Re: [EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ...

2018-07-25 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
observer is unable to distinguish between the two used side by side, except for the waste heat produced by the incandescent. Regards, Cor. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: brucedp5 via EV Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 2:28 PM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: brucedp5 Subject: [EVDL] Reduce EV

[EVDL] Reduce EV: Charging load on the grid ...

2018-07-25 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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