Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-08 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
On Jun 6, 2015, at 6:05 AM, tomw via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: /...When I use it to what I interpret as completely dead (about 3 miles of residential/commercial streets after the very low battery warning where it shuts off the meter), charging to what it indicates as 100% (12 bars on the

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-05 Thread Jamie K via EV
On the 2013 (and later) model LEAFs, like the one the OP was inquiring about, you don't have to deal with the semi-ambiguous charge bars. There's an option for a direct numeric percentage display which is much more useful/readable. Battery temp is still indicated by the left bar display,

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-04 Thread tomw via EV
/I was shocked when I heard that was in the manual. Then by fortune one day on a plane trip the guy sitting next to me noticed all my EV magazines etc, and admitted he was a battery engineer for Nissan./ Nice to know. -- View this message in context:

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-03 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Jun 3, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Ed Blackmond via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: The guess-o-meter provides neither number. Ignoring the guess-o-meter for the moment...how accurate is the remaining charge meter? Can one use it mentally like one does the gas gauge on an ICE vehicle? That is, if you

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-03 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-03 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
On Wed, 3 Jun 2015, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: I can see their point. It simply is not worth it to degrade the accuracy of the guess-o-meter by encouraging trickle charging after every use and have to put up with daily driver dissatisfaction with the gauge, than it is to sacrifice a little

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-03 Thread Jamie K via EV
Yes. Starting with the 2013 model LEAF there is a very useful percentage of charge display option. You can also reset the miles/kWh display before a trip in order to monitor what your average is for that particular trip. With those two numbers you can get a good idea of how you're doing.

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging?

2015-06-03 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Absolutely never trickle charge any type of Lithium Ion battery Another absolute statement, that is meaningless unless the term trickle charge is defined. Yes, trickle charging beyond FULL is absolutely bad. But there is nothing wrong with trickle charging at a low rate when the batteries are

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-03 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Yes, slow charging is just fine, in fact, better for the life of the battery than fast charging. The reason they cannot recommend it is the simply the *ergonomics* of customer expectations of the miles-to-go gauge.

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-03 Thread Paul Dove via EV
My I-MiEV recommends driving down to one bar on the gauge once a month to reset the gauge. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Nissan doesn't recommend trickle charging. I was shocked when I heard that was in the manual. Then

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-03 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Nissan doesn't recommend trickle charging. I was shocked when I heard that was in the manual. Then by fortune one day on a plane trip the guy sitting next to me noticed all my EV magazines etc, and admitted he was a battery engineer for Nissan. I asked him point blank. His response was

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging?

2015-06-03 Thread Paul Dove via EV
True so let's define it Trickle charging means charging a fully charged battery under no-load at a rate equal to its self-discharge rate, thus enabling the battery to remain at its fully charged level.A battery under continuous float voltage charging is said to be under float-charging. I

Re: [EVDL] Trickle Charging a Nissan?

2015-06-03 Thread David Wilker via EV
This the same way you calibrate the battery in your laptop computer If we cannot afford to take care of Veterans, then we should stop making them. David C. Wilker Jr. USAF (RET) On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Nissan doesn't recommend trickle