Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-30 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Ben Goren b...@trumpetpower.com wrote: On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Tom Martin via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: The state in turn sent you a 'Certificate' of title. The auto you

Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-29 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Tom Martin via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: The state in turn sent you a 'Certificate' of title. The auto you bought and paid for is the property of the state. Huh? The

Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-28 Thread Roland via EV
...@drmm.net ; Electric Vehicle Discussion Listmailto:ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs I expect this to be a pendulum swing, you can understand the laptop folks getting nervous after the firestorm about laptops flaming

Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 28, 2015, at 1:56 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: This is not quite the same as the Leaf battery model cited, I guess, but it's a similar principle: make it more difficult for the independent mechanic or private owner to service the battery. It also is making

Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-28 Thread Michael Ross via EV
I expect this to be a pendulum swing, you can understand the laptop folks getting nervous after the firestorm about laptops flaming on on the living room floor - if you don't tamper well. and it is exceedingly likely a tamper can go wrong given the wild world of Li ion batteries...as a product

Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-28 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Tom Martin via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: The state in turn sent you a 'Certificate' of title. The auto you bought and paid for is the property of the state. Huh? The Certificate of Title establishes *you* as owner of the car. Not the state.

[EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-27 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions via EV
Can the auto builder stop you from working on your car???, They can pas that kind of assanighn bill if they want, but who will enforce it? . Its your car/truck, you paid for it, and you over paid for it to begin with . The aftermarket lobby will shut it down faster than a wet fart on a hot day