Re: [EVDL] I wonder where the Clunns are

[jerry freedomev via EV]

 Hi Willy and All,

We did well as luckily Irma went 
inland earlier lowering it's power from insane to manageable for me east  Tampa 
..
 Only 2 fences fell thought a lot 
of water damage but overall not bad.  Lost power last night at 6:45 pm so went 
though the night so now the power is back on in the last 30 minutes luckily.  
Still 500k without power in just my county.
They are saying it hit me dead 
on the eye's center with 100mph+.   But I went to sleep at 9pm as no TV, 
internet even with my 12vdc system so I'll have to make the TV and internet 
modem work on 12vdc though more likely to buy a pure sine wave inverter after
 this and go offgrid.
 Things could have been far worse 
had it stayed just offshore and kept it's full strength.
  Things should be better at the 
Clunns 50 miles north of me who looks like also got hit by the eye.  Let's hope 
they are ok as trees are the biggest danger.. 
  The chassis mold got wet for the  
 63 Vette so I might have to do it again if it warps but that is easy.
Jerry Dycus












On Sun, 9/10/17, jerry freedomev via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [EVDL] I wonder where the Clunns are
 To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
 Cc: "jerry freedomev" <freedo...@yahoo.com>
 Date: Sunday, September 10, 2017, 10:30 AM
 
            
                
     Hi Willy and All,
 
          
                
                
    I'm 4 miles east  of Tampa Bay, close or at
 ground zero as the track presently is and where the max
 winds will be, the dangerous quadrant .   I'm at 52'
 and immune to flooding, can't get deeper than 2" and only
 until the downpour keeps up a 4"/hr rate for a while as
 either soak into the sand or run slightly downhill. and as
 an old Florida boy, I know better. 
          
                
                
    But likely over 100mph winds so I already signed
 into a cat 5 shelter and have other options too.
          
                
                
    My place, 63 Vette body, chassis, workshops, etc
 can't though.
          
                
                
    I'm boarded up, packed but will wait until things
 get over 45mph steady then hit the shelter for about 10 hrs,
 and get back once wind go down to 50mph.   
          
                
                  The
 Clunns are  in low lying like most all of that area in
 a mandatory evacuation zone I believe the whole county is
 under.   
          
                
                
    I have an old friend living a couple miles from them
 on higher land and he is leaving east.
          
                
                
   And close to the coast and good  possibility can
 get hit by 100mph+ winds and  the surge  if the
 present course verifies after the storm passes.  Most
 it'll depend on the forward speed as it takes time for the
 winds to build up the surge but presently say 12-15' in
 their area.  
          
                
                  And
 the massive rains that might happen can bring the flood from
 inland.
          
                
                  All
 up if it stays at 120mph + just offshore putting the most
 dangerous winds right on the coastal areas most densely
 populated and the most time to make the surge, damage will
 be extensive losing maybe 25% of homes, buildings and
 literally changing the coastline      .
          
                
                
 Taking out whole islands, losing 200-500' of
 coast/beaches  with our most expensive properties is
 likely if it goes as they say.
          
                
                  The
 first feeder bands are coming through Tampa now but they are
 mostly just good rain storms. 
          
                
                
     It just hit the Keys with 130mph winds so
 likely will be little left for 40 miles likely taking out
 the only road, US1 for weeks, months even.
          
                
                
   Let's hope it speeds up and veers west but the just
 make it bad for others on the upper gulf coast.   
  We'll survive but is going to take a lot to put it back
 together.  I'll do fine as I can rebuild fairly fast,
 low cost if needed, even better. 
          
                
                My big
 worry and interestingly protects us is I live in an old oak
 forest that protects us from winds until they fall down,
 which is the major reason I'm not staying home in the worse
 part in case they do.
          
                
               All our
 trees take out the powerlines like in Charlie a weaker storm
 that hot

Re: [EVDL] I wonder where the Clunns are

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Re: [EVDL] I wonder where the Clunns are

[robert winfield via EV]

we left Cape Coral tuesday for Maryland, 10-15ft storm surge anticipated in 
Fort Myers/Naples, may or, may not have house. if lucky boat will sink in canal 
and protect from other boats coming up canal. will have to throw all food away 
from fridge.

  From: jerry freedomev via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
 To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
Cc: jerry freedomev <freedo...@yahoo.com>
 Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] I wonder where the Clunns are
   
                                Hi Willy and All,

                                            I'm 4 miles east  of Tampa Bay, 
close or at ground zero as the track presently is and where the max winds will 
be, the dangerous quadrant .  I'm at 52' and immune to flooding, can't get 
deeper than 2" and only until the downpour keeps up a 4"/hr rate for a while as 
either soak into the sand or run slightly downhill. and as an old Florida boy, 
I know better. 
                                            But likely over 100mph winds so I 
already signed into a cat 5 shelter and have other options too.
                                            My place, 63 Vette body, chassis, 
workshops, etc can't though.
                                            I'm boarded up, packed but will 
wait until things get over 45mph steady then hit the shelter for about 10 hrs, 
and get back once wind go down to 50mph.  
                                          The Clunns are  in low lying like 
most all of that area in a mandatory evacuation zone I believe the whole county 
is under.  
                                            I have an old friend living a 
couple miles from them on higher land and he is leaving east.
                                            And close to the coast and good  
possibility can get hit by 100mph+ winds and  the surge  if the present course 
verifies after the storm passes.  Most it'll depend on the forward speed as it 
takes time for the winds to build up the surge but presently say 12-15' in 
their area.  
                                          And the massive rains that might 
happen can bring the flood from inland.
                                          All up if it stays at 120mph + just 
offshore putting the most dangerous winds right on the coastal areas most 
densely populated and the most time to make the surge, damage will be extensive 
losing maybe 25% of homes, buildings and literally changing the coastline      .
                                          Taking out whole islands, losing 
200-500' of coast/beaches  with our most expensive properties is likely if it 
goes as they say.
                                          The first feeder bands are coming 
through Tampa now but they are mostly just good rain storms. 
                                              It just hit the Keys with 130mph 
winds so likely will be little left for 40 miles likely taking out the only 
road, US1 for weeks, months even.
                                            Let's hope it speeds up and veers 
west but the just make it bad for others on the upper gulf coast.    We'll 
survive but is going to take a lot to put it back together.  I'll do fine as I 
can rebuild fairly fast, low cost if needed, even better. 
                                        My big worry and interestingly protects 
us is I live in an old oak forest that protects us from winds until they fall 
down, which is the major reason I'm not staying home in the worse part in case 
they do.
                                        All our trees take out the powerlines 
like in Charlie a weaker storm that hot me with 75mph winds and took out put 
with 3 hot miserable days of listening to generators.  Likely it'll be days, 
even a week longer.  Last time I just used my lightweight EV's to supply my 
power and almost ran out just when the power came back on.  I had a set up wit 
7-11 to recharge my EVs I normally used for extending my 40 mile range but 
didn't need it.
                                        Now I have solar, batteries so no 
problem for me. 
                                        Going to be an interesting 24 hours.  
                                                                            
Jerry Dycus
              



On Sun, 9/10/17, Willie via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

 Subject: [EVDL] I wonder where the Clunns are
 To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
 Cc: "Willie" <wmckem...@gmail.com>
 Date: Sunday, September 10, 2017, 8:00 AM
 
 I've heard Crystal River is under an
 evacuation order.  Even though most 
 houses in the area are on the ground,
 the Clunn house is on stilts. 
 They may have decided to stick it out.
 
 In what part of the state does Jerry
 Dycus live?
 
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Re: [EVDL] I wonder where the Clunns are

[jerry freedomev via EV]

Hi Willy and All,

 I'm 4 miles east  of Tampa Bay, 
close or at ground zero as the track presently is and where the max winds will 
be, the dangerous quadrant .   I'm at 52' and immune to flooding, can't get 
deeper than 2" and only until the downpour keeps up a 4"/hr rate for a while as 
either soak into the sand or run slightly downhill. and as an old Florida boy, 
I know better. 
 But likely over 100mph winds so I 
already signed into a cat 5 shelter and have other options too.
 My place, 63 Vette body, chassis, 
workshops, etc can't though.
 I'm boarded up, packed but will 
wait until things get over 45mph steady then hit the shelter for about 10 hrs, 
and get back once wind go down to 50mph.   
   The Clunns are  in low lying like 
most all of that area in a mandatory evacuation zone I believe the whole county 
is under.   
 I have an old friend living a 
couple miles from them on higher land and he is leaving east.
And close to the coast and good  
possibility can get hit by 100mph+ winds and  the surge  if the present course 
verifies after the storm passes.  Most it'll depend on the forward speed as it 
takes time for the winds to build up the surge but presently say 12-15' in 
their area.  
   And the massive rains that might 
happen can bring the flood from inland.
   All up if it stays at 120mph + just 
offshore putting the most dangerous winds right on the coastal areas most 
densely populated and the most time to make the surge, damage will be extensive 
losing maybe 25% of homes, buildings and literally changing the coastline  .
  Taking out whole islands, losing 
200-500' of coast/beaches  with our most expensive properties is likely if it 
goes as they say.
   The first feeder bands are coming 
through Tampa now but they are mostly just good rain storms. 
  It just hit the Keys with 130mph 
winds so likely will be little left for 40 miles likely taking out the only 
road, US1 for weeks, months even.
Let's hope it speeds up and veers 
west but the just make it bad for others on the upper gulf coast. We'll 
survive but is going to take a lot to put it back together.  I'll do fine as I 
can rebuild fairly fast, low cost if needed, even better. 
 My big worry and interestingly 
protects us is I live in an old oak forest that protects us from winds until 
they fall down, which is the major reason I'm not staying home in the worse 
part in case they do.
All our trees take out the powerlines 
like in Charlie a weaker storm that hot me with 75mph winds and took out put 
with 3 hot miserable days of listening to generators.  Likely it'll be days, 
even a week longer.  Last time I just used my lightweight EV's to supply my 
power and almost ran out just when the power came back on.   I had a set up wit 
7-11 to recharge my EVs I normally used for extending my 40 mile range but 
didn't need it.
 Now I have solar, batteries so no 
problem for me. 
 Going to be an interesting 24 hours.  

Jerry Dycus
  



On Sun, 9/10/17, Willie via EV  wrote:

 Subject: [EVDL] I wonder where the Clunns are
 To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
 Cc: "Willie" 
 Date: Sunday, September 10, 2017, 8:00 AM
 
 I've heard Crystal River is under an
 evacuation order.  Even though most 
 houses in the area are on the ground,
 the Clunn house is on stilts. 
 They may have decided to stick it out.
 
 In what part of the state does Jerry
 Dycus live?
 
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