Re: [Evangelism] Showcast

2010-09-03 Thread Jon Stahl
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke
juhase...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am 03.09.10 09:40, schrieb Geir Bækholt:
 On 03-09-2010 08.43, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:

 If someone wants to fix the next-previous behavior to something more
 sensible, i am sure that would be most welcome.

 Perhaps put the pictures in a folder and hide it from navigation.

Thanks for pointing this out, Jan.  I created the screengrabs, I'll
try fix it this weekend.  If anyone can get there before me, please
feel free.

:jon
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[Evangelism] blogging about Plone 4

2010-09-02 Thread Jon Stahl
Hi all-

Congrats on a great Plone 4 launch, everyone!  We're getting great
uptake, and it's great to see so many of you tweeting up a storm.
Keep it up!

Just wanted to also encourage those of you who blog to write a bit
about why you're so excited about Plone 4, and what it means to you,
your organization, your clients.

I took my stab at this: http://jstahl.org/2331

It would be great to see a steady drumbeat of pieces like this over
the next few weeks, as well as a steady stream of tweets.

:jon

PS Carol at Six Feet Up just reported to the plone-devs list that
http://demo.plone.org will be back with Plone 4 by September 10th, so
that will be a really nice thing to point folks at.

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[Evangelism] noted: python.reddit.com sent me quite a bit of traffic

2010-01-21 Thread Jon Stahl
Just wanted to close the loop here with some stats:

I saw that Alex submitted my Plone 4 is three times faster...
article to http://python.reddit.com.  (Thanks, Alex!)

Of the 893 visits that the page got yesterday, it appears (from Google
Analytics) that 229 referred by reddit.com.  That's considerably more
than came from twitter.com (97, although that almost certainly doesn't
include those who came via non-web twitter clients), or Facebook (54).

My conclusion: it's worth the effort to post hot Plone-related news
items or blog posts to python.reddit.com, if we want them to reach an
audience of interested pythonistas.

best,
jon

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[Evangelism] Please join us to chat about the future of Plone.net!

2010-01-16 Thread Jon Stahl
(Apologies for cross-posting!)

Thanks to lots of great work from the Plone.net and the wider Plone community,
we made some huge leaps forward with http://plone.net in the
past year.   We introduced and implemented the long-awaited
sponsorship program, and Plone.net is now generating significant
revenue for the Plone Foundation.  That's a big, big deal for the
Plone community.

The Plone Foundation board has asked me to kick off a conversation
about how we can continue to refine and improve Plone.net so that it
is an even more powerful and impressive showcase for Plone sites and
providers.

If you're interested in participating in or following along with that
conversation, please join us on the Plone.net list by subscribing at:

 http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plonenet


In a few days, I'm going to then kick off the conversation there by
offering some
big-picture questions for discussion.  I'm hoping we can
proceed roughly along the lines of: re-clarify the present + future
role of Plone.net, identify who's currently doing what, and who's
willing/able to do what in the future, and identify both strategic and
technical goals for improvement.

If you're interested in helping make Plone.net an even more powerful
hub for showcasing Plone sites and Plone providers, then please join
us!

best,
jon

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[Evangelism] Fwd: Plone is back on ohloh

2009-10-07 Thread Jon Stahl
FYI.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu
Date: Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Subject: Fwd: Plone is back on ohloh
To: Jon Stahl jonst...@gmail.com


Hi Jon.

I sent this a while back to the evangelism list, but it seems to have
been lost in the moderator queue.

Hanno

-- Forwarded message --
From: Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu
Date: Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Subject: Plone is back on ohloh
To: evangelism evangelism@lists.plone.org

Hi.

ohloh.net has been acquired by SourceForge a while back, giving me
some hope, that they'll be able to improve their service again. I've
therefor put Plone back onto ohloh (https://www.ohloh.net/p/plone)

Their standard short analysis is both favorable and correct. The info
about ratings, reviews, who uses and who contributes is correct as
well. The underlying data represents plone-coredev trunk, which means
Plone 5 right now. The number of lines of code for that release looks
correct as well.

But: The whole historical view of any data is pretty much useless.
Neither the LOC history nor the number of commits per contributor are
anywhere close to being correct.

This is a limitation of the ohloh.net service, which we cannot do
anything about right now. Just be aware of it, if someone tries to
quote or use any of this data.

Thanks,
Hanno

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Re: [Evangelism] Article: Is Plone a Good CMS

2009-07-23 Thread Jon Stahl
Well done, Martin, Ken et al!

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Matt Hamiltonma...@netsight.co.uk wrote:

 On 21 Jul 2009, at 21:00, Matt Hamilton wrote:

 Janus Boye just published an article entitled 'Is Plone a Good CMS?'

 http://www.jboye.com/blogpost/is-plone-a-good-cms/

 A fairly even article saying basically 'Danish Govt say Plone is a good
 CMS, but is it fair that they pick one?'

 There are some fantastic comments at the bottom of this post now by Martin
 Aspeli and Ken Wasetis. Great work guys, some nice insights into 'big firm'
 consulting and how they go about things.

 -Matt

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RE: [Evangelism] UK government backs open source

2009-02-26 Thread Jon Stahl

 Finally, http://delicious.com/tag/plone-site+government returns 32
 Plone
 sites worldwide that appear to be used in government.

And of course, many government agencies do not advertise or speak on
the record about their use of open source, even when the site headers
tell the tale for all to see.
 
e.g. http://www.cia.gov, http://www.fbi.gov 

best,
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RE: [Evangelism] Should we be doing things like this?

2008-12-01 Thread Jon Stahl
The Lullabot guys are *awesome* marketers for Drupal and spend a lot of
time and energy doing outreach for the Drupal community.  In general, I
think it is wise to emulate their tactics where it is possible.

:jon




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 Subject: [Evangelism] Should we be doing things like this?
 
 Just caught this in my RSS reader and I have signed up to check it out
 to see how this works.  I think it would be something that could be
 pretty effective to get new folks engaged in Plone.
 
 http://oreilly.com/emails/drupal-webcast.html
 
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[Evangelism] plone for nonprofits slide deck

2008-11-25 Thread Jon Stahl
I created a fairly-generic Plone for Nonprofits slide deck for a webinar 
hosted today by NTEN (http://nten.org)... I thought I'd share with y'all, it's 
now up at:
http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/contributed-marketing-materials


Please feel free to remix and reuse.  Big thanks to Nate Aune, whose #  10 
Things You Probably Didn't Know about Plone I stole a few slides and ideas 
from. 

best,
jon


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[Evangelism] 10 big content management blogs

2008-11-19 Thread Jon Stahl
... courtesy of Seth Gottlieb:

 

Thought this might be useful for some future relationship building
work...

 

Fierce Content Management http://www.fiercecontentmanagement.com  just
named Enter Content Here http://blog.contenthere.net/  in its top 10
list of content management websites
http://www.fiercecontentmanagement.com/special-reports/top-10-content-m
anagement-websites . The rest of the list is:

*   AIIM http://www.aiim.org/ 
*   ECM Connection http://www.ecmconnection.com 
*   ARMA http://www.arma.org/ 
*   The CMS Myth http://www.cmsmyth.com/ 
*   CM Pros http://www.cmprofessionals.org/ 
*   CMS Watch http://www.cmswatch.com/ 
*   CMSWire http://www.cmswire.com/ 
*   Content Management Connection
http://contentmanagementconnection.com/ 
*   Fast Forward Blog http://www.fastforwardblog.com/ 

 

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RE: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan Drupal and Joomla combined

2008-11-06 Thread Jon Stahl
Martin Aspeli’s 2006 dissertation is a great history of Plone up to, obviously, 
~2006.

 

:jon



 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Kirk
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:43 AM
To: Jon Stahl
Cc: Graham Perrin; evangelism@lists.plone.org
Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan 
Drupal and Joomla combined

 

Do we have other community stats we can use, or history of the project from a 
community perspective?

I want to write a post called Plone: Of the People, By the People, For the 
People.

- Gerry

2008/10/29 Jon Stahl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My conclusion from all of this is not to rely too much on Ohloh's stats; they 
are often quite inaccurate.

:jon



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 Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan
 Drupal and Joomla combined



 Jon Stahl wrote:
  I think it's good to emphasize how open and collaborative the community
  is, but wise to avoid direct comparisons with competitors, because it is a
  bit of apples and oranges due to different community management
  structures.

 +1 to Jon's comments (I drafted this message last night …)


 Gerry Kirk-3 wrote:
  Only 22 Drupal contributors?

 http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/factoids/865231 suggests:

  Over the past twelve months, only 3 developers contributed new code

 and

  Over the entire history of the project, 10 developers have contributed

 http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/contributors counts 22.

 At http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/reviews a reviewer comments:

  stats are wrong, because many developers contribute to Drupal, but only a
  few developers have necessary rights to commit code into Drupal core
  repositories. This ensures a very high quality in Drupal's core code base.

 The 10 ≠ 22 discrepancy remains unexplained.

 

 For Plone at http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/reviews we might add a
 comparable review, with reference to
 http://plone.org/documentation/manual/plone-developer-
 reference/overview/release-process
 and/or simply highlight:

  * Release Manager
   ― one elected individual

  * Framework team
   ― currently five individuals
   ― http://plone.org/about/team/FrameworkTeam.

 

 Drupal gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0
 based on 111 user ratings. 111/280 = ratings from ~39% of Drupal users at
 Ohloh.

 Plone gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0
 based on 61 user ratings. 61/107 = ratings from ~57% of Plone users at
 Ohloh.

 

 http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/factoids/740563 notes:

  Over the last twelve months, Plone has seen a substantial decline in
  development activity … Ohloh makes this determination by comparing total
  number of commits made by all developers during the most recent twelve
  months with the same figure for the twelve months before that. The number
  of developers and total lines of code are not considered.

 The April/May 2006 burst is remarkable in the videos mentioned at
 http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-Code-Swarm-tp1374267p1374267.html but that's
 more than 24 months ago so the perceived decline is probably attributable to
 other factors.

 Regards
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Re: [Evangelism] Re: Plone statistics

2008-10-21 Thread Jon Stahl

Nate Aune wrote:


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:57 PM, T. Kim Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Nate Aune wrote:

 Jon Stahl (cc'ed) has used Surveymonkey.com in the past to conduct
 surveys, mostly around the Plone conference 2006 in Seattle. I've also
 used this service and found it to be quite good. We could come up with
 some different surveys to gather statistics about things we would like
 to know about the Plone community. Maybe we could offer a prize to one
 lucky survey responder, and get sponsors to give something away to
 encourage people to fill out the survey. For example, Packt Publishing
 could donate a Plone book.

 Is there a reason why we wouldn't try to use Plone Survey instead of 
some
 crummy PHP app? ;-)  UW Oshkosh has been using Plone Survey 
successfully for

 some time now.  Dog food, etc.

I'm all for eating one's own dogfood if it is the best tool for the
job. I haven't looked at PloneSurvey for awhile so I'm not sure how it
stacks up to Surveymonkey.com. I don't really care which tool we use
as long as we can get relevant data out of it for analysis purposes.

SurveyMonkey isn't PHP (it's a service, not an open source app) and it's 
a LOT more powerful and easy to use for a complex survey than PloneSurvey. 

Whatever, use the tool that feels right. But I think you'll find SM a 
lot faster and easier.  For me, it would be a no-brainer.


:jon

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[Evangelism] B Corporations - interesting new association for social benefit corporations

2008-05-26 Thread Jon Stahl

Dear Plonistas,

As many of you know, I work for a nonprofit organization, 
ONE/Northwest.  But many of you work for small-and-growing consulting 
firms or other for-profit entities.  Nonetheless many of you have a 
strong social benefit ethic in your work, whereby you seek to do good 
while you earn a livelihood.


I've recently become aware of B Corporation 
(http://www.bcorporation.net), a cool new initiative to create standards 
for and to shine the light upon social benefit corporations, and to 
help corporations incorporate social benefit concepts into their legal 
governance structures.


Interestingly, they've also partnered with Salesforce.com Foundation to 
make the Salesforce CRM platform available to B Corporations at an 80% 
discount. (See http://www.csrwire.com/News/11396.html).


I could see quite a few of the Plone consulting shops I know finding it 
very interesting to explore and be visible in this new community.


best,
jon




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