Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - more than Drupal and Joomla combined

[Graham Perrin]

Chris Calloway wrote:
> All three Plone code swarm visualizations are finished now …
> http://plone.org/news/plone-code-swarms-demonstrate-community-vitality

MANY THANKS! 

Please, can the image of the explosion be increased in brightness? (The
thumbnail reduction is, at a glance, predominantly black). The attached JPG
is lazily auto-levelled and sharpened in Apple Preview, someone else might
produce better :)
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n1453351/Archipelago-explosion-autolevelled.jpg 

Would it be useful for me to offer streaming complements to the Flash
versions of the swarms?

Best regards
Graham
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Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - more than Drupal and Joomla combined

[Chris Calloway]

All three Plone code swarm visualizations are finished now and I'm 
trying to get this published:


http://plone.org/news/plone-code-swarms-demonstrate-community-vitality

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Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - more than Drupal and Joomla combined

[Jon Stahl]

It's because lots of people contribute patches and whatnot, but very few
people have commit privs to make the actual checkins to their repository. 
It's a different community model than Plone's very open, trusting approach. 
I am pretty sure the same is true of Joomla as well.

I think it's good to emphasize how open and collaborative the community is,
but wise to avoid direct comparisons with competitors, because it is a bit
of "apples and oranges" due to different community management structures. 

:jon



Gerry Kirk-3 wrote:
> 
> Only 22 Drupal contributors? Does that pass the sanity check? Why such a
> discrepancy? Seems a little fishy, though I know nothing about the Drupal
> community.
> 
> 2008/10/28 Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> This code swarm is a really cool visualization of the history of the
>> Plone
>> project from the perspective of contributors checking in code to the
>> Plone
>> code repository during the last 8 years. Thanks to Chris Calloway for
>> putting it together and Alex Limi for Tweeting about it.
>> http://twitter.com/limi/status/977015794
>>
>> Watch the code swarm here: http://www.vimeo.com/2075738
>>
>> This might make a cool demo to show WPD attendees how Plone is a mature
>> product, has stood the test of time and has more contributors than Drupal
>> and Joomla combined:
>>
>> 275 contributors to Plone -
>> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/contributors
>> 48 contributors to Joomla -
>> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/joomla/contributors
>> 22 contributors to Drupal -
>> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/contributors
>> 33 contributors to Typo3 -
>> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/typo3/contributors
>> 17 contributors to Wordpress -
>> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/wordpress/contributors
>> 7 contributors to Xoops -
>> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/xoops/contributors
>>
>> Someone want to make up a chart of those #'s and include it with the
>> World
>> Plone Day slide deck?
>>
>> Btw, searching for "CMS" on ohloh.net brings up 513 hits, so it's no
>> wonder people are confused when they have to choose an open source CMS.
>> There are so many choices!
>> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/search?q=cms
>>
>> Nate
> 


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Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - more than Drupal and Joomla combined

[Graham Perrin]

Jon Stahl wrote:
> I think it's good to emphasize how open and collaborative the community
> is, but wise to avoid direct comparisons with competitors, because it is a
> bit of "apples and oranges" due to different community management
> structures.

+1 to Jon's comments (I drafted this message last night …)


Gerry Kirk-3 wrote:
> Only 22 Drupal contributors?

 suggests: 

> Over the past twelve months, only 3 developers contributed new code

and 

> Over the entire history of the project, 10 developers have contributed

 counts 22. 

At  a reviewer comments: 

> stats are wrong, because many developers contribute to Drupal, but only a
> few developers have necessary rights to commit code into Drupal core
> repositories. This ensures a very high quality in Drupal's core code base.

The 10 ≠ 22 discrepancy remains unexplained. 



For Plone at  we might add a
comparable review, with reference to

and/or simply highlight:

 * Release Manager 
  — one elected individual

 * Framework team
  — currently five individuals
  — .



Drupal gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0 
based on 111 user ratings. 111/280 = ratings from ~39% of Drupal users at
Ohloh. 

Plone gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0 
based on 61 user ratings. 61/107 = ratings from ~57% of Plone users at
Ohloh. 



 notes:

> Over the last twelve months, Plone has seen a substantial decline in
> development activity … Ohloh makes this determination by comparing total
> number of commits made by all developers during the most recent twelve
> months with the same figure for the twelve months before that. The number
> of developers and total lines of code are not considered.

The April/May 2006 burst is remarkable in the videos mentioned at 
 but that's
more than 24 months ago so the perceived decline is probably attributable to
other factors. 

Regards
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Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - more than Drupal and Joomla combined

[Gerry Kirk]

Only 22 Drupal contributors? Does that pass the sanity check? Why such a
discrepancy? Seems a little fishy, though I know nothing about the Drupal
community.

2008/10/28 Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> This code swarm is a really cool visualization of the history of the Plone
> project from the perspective of contributors checking in code to the Plone
> code repository during the last 8 years. Thanks to Chris Calloway for
> putting it together and Alex Limi for Tweeting about it.
> http://twitter.com/limi/status/977015794
>
> Watch the code swarm here: http://www.vimeo.com/2075738
>
> This might make a cool demo to show WPD attendees how Plone is a mature
> product, has stood the test of time and has more contributors than Drupal
> and Joomla combined:
>
> 275 contributors to Plone -
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/contributors
> 48 contributors to Joomla -
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/joomla/contributors
> 22 contributors to Drupal -
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/contributors
> 33 contributors to Typo3 -
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/typo3/contributors
> 17 contributors to Wordpress -
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/wordpress/contributors
> 7 contributors to Xoops - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/xoops/contributors
>
> Someone want to make up a chart of those #'s and include it with the World
> Plone Day slide deck?
>
> Btw, searching for "CMS" on ohloh.net brings up 513 hits, so it's no
> wonder people are confused when they have to choose an open source CMS.
> There are so many choices!
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/search?q=cms
>
> Nate
>
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[Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - more than Drupal and Joomla combined

[Nate Aune]

This code swarm is a really cool visualization of the history of the Plone
project from the perspective of contributors checking in code to the Plone
code repository during the last 8 years. Thanks to Chris Calloway for
putting it together and Alex Limi for Tweeting about it.
http://twitter.com/limi/status/977015794

Watch the code swarm here: http://www.vimeo.com/2075738

This might make a cool demo to show WPD attendees how Plone is a mature
product, has stood the test of time and has more contributors than Drupal
and Joomla combined:

275 contributors to Plone - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/contributors
48 contributors to Joomla -
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/joomla/contributors
22 contributors to Drupal -
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/contributors
33 contributors to Typo3 - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/typo3/contributors
17 contributors to Wordpress -
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/wordpress/contributors
7 contributors to Xoops - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/xoops/contributors

Someone want to make up a chart of those #'s and include it with the World
Plone Day slide deck?

Btw, searching for "CMS" on ohloh.net brings up 513 hits, so it's no wonder
people are confused when they have to choose an open source CMS. There are
so many choices!
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/search?q=cms

Nate

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