Re: Talk about Perl Marketing at the Nordic Perl Workshop

2010-04-04 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Salve J Nilsen  wrote:
> Gabor Szabo said:
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Salve J Nilsen  wrote:
>>>
>>> The guys organizing the Nordic Perl Workshop 2010 in Reykjavik have
>>> accepted my 20 minute talk-proposal! :)
>>>
>>> I'd love to have some thoughts on specific points I should mention/cover.
>>
>> Tell them they don't have to lie under the title "marketing" nor do they
>> have to convince anyone about the superiority of Perl. It is enough just to
>> talk about the things they like, show enthusiasm (if there is) and make
>> strangers feel comfortable.
>
> I have no intention of pampering to the "marketing" stigma at all, actually
> (think "It's not about marketing, it's about raising awareness!" :)

I  think this is an awesome motto.

"It's not about marketing, it's about raising awareness!"

right from the same place where

"We suck at marketing, but we are proud of our community"

comes from

Gabor


Re: Talk about Perl Marketing at the Nordic Perl Workshop

2010-04-04 Thread Salve J Nilsen

Gabor Szabo said:

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Salve J Nilsen  wrote:


The guys organizing the Nordic Perl Workshop 2010 in Reykjavik have 
accepted my 20 minute talk-proposal! :)


I'd love to have some thoughts on specific points I should 
mention/cover.


Tell them they don't have to lie under the title "marketing" nor do 
they have to convince anyone about the superiority of Perl. It is 
enough just to talk about the things they like, show enthusiasm (if 
there is) and make strangers feel comfortable.


I have no intention of pampering to the "marketing" stigma at all, 
actually (think "It's not about marketing, it's about raising 
awareness!" :)


But yeah, the point is to give the attendees a picture of what's going 
on, and perhaps a reason to help when they have the opportunity.



You could check out where the people who attend NPW come from and 
prepare a list of events in the neighborhood adding them to 
http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?events so you can 
already encourage people to participate in the specific events.


Will do. I'll mention the people who have edited that page too.

Do we have pictures (portraits?) of the different contributors?


Alternatively, or in addition you could ask them to give you ideas 
of more events in the places where they live.


Or send them to that page to help out. :)


- Salve

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Re: Talk about Perl Marketing at the Nordic Perl Workshop

2010-04-04 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Salve J Nilsen  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> The guys organizing the Nordic Perl Workshop 2010 in Reykjavik have accepted
> my 20 minute talk-proposal! :)

I am very happy for this. I think we should give such talks on the
other Workshops as well and on the YAPCs too.

> My intention is to give people a report of what's happened, the motivation
> of the effort, who's who, how people can help, and perhaps throw out some
> ideas that can make people think a litte extra about the issues we're
> facing...
>
> In the meantime, I'd love to have some thoughts from yu guys on specific
> points I should mention/cover!
>
> I was at FOSDEM in Brussels so I have an idea of how that went, and I've
> read the reports from Cebit, but I'm sure there's more to be said.
>
> Any takers? :)

Tell them they don't have to lie under the title "marketing" nor do
they have to convince anyone about the superiority of Perl.
It is enough just to talk about the things they like, show enthusiasm
(if there is) and make strangers feel comfortable.

You could check out where the people who attend NPW come from
and prepare a list of events in the neighborhood adding them to
http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?events
so you can already encourage people to participate in the specific events.

Alternatively, or in addition you could ask them to give you ideas of
more events in the places where they live.

Gabor