RE: Olympia's Beautiful and Profound Mind

2005-05-13 Thread Lee Corbin
Jesse comments on Brian's remarkable and exceedingly valuable explication (thanks, Brian!), even if some old-timers are having deja-vu all over again, and are wondering if indeed the universe isn't hopelessly cyclic after all. > > triggering tape locations. To make it even simpler, the read/write

RE: Olympia's Beautiful and Profound Mind

2005-05-13 Thread Lee Corbin
Hal writes > We had some discussion of Maudlin's paper on the everything-list in 1999. > I summarized the paper at http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/m898.html . > Subsequent discussion under the thread title "implementation" followed > ... > I suggested a flaw in Maudlin's argument at > http:/

RE: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-13 Thread Lee Corbin
Bruno writes > [Lee writes] > > But many here contend that abstract > > patterns---mathematical stings, really---can do *so* much cross- > > referencing and quoting of each other that a form of paste obtains > > that wields them in to something capable of having experiences. > > But a familiar abs

RE: Olympia's Beautiful and Profound Mind

2005-05-13 Thread Jesse Mazer
Brian Scurfield wrote: Bruno recently urged me to read up on Tim Maudlin's movie-graph argument against the computational hypothesis. I did so. Here is my version of the argument. According to the computational hypothesis, consciousness supervenes on brain activity and

RE: Olympia's Beautiful and Profound Mind

2005-05-13 Thread Brian Scurfield
Hal wrote: > We had some discussion of Maudlin's paper on the everything-list in 1999. > I summarized the paper at http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/m898.html > . > Subsequent discussion under the thread title "implementation" followed > up; I will point to my posting at > http://www.escribe.c

Re: Olympia's Beautiful and Profound Mind

2005-05-13 Thread "Hal Finney"
We had some discussion of Maudlin's paper on the everything-list in 1999. I summarized the paper at http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/m898.html . Subsequent discussion under the thread title "implementation" followed up; I will point to my posting at http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/m962.h

Re: Final Announcement

2005-05-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
Thank you for telling us, Bruno Le 12-mai-05, à 17:44, Ti Bo a écrit : Final Announcement Data Ecologies 2005 will take place from 9:30 until 16:00 at the Time's Up laboratories in Linz this Friday 13th and Saturday 14th May. Themes include the physics of virtual spaces, whether real space is c

Re: Olympia's Beautiful and Profound Mind

2005-05-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
Thanks for that very nice summary. I let people think about it. We have discussed it a long time before on the Everything-list. A keyword to find that discussion in the everything list archive is "crackpot" as Jacques Mallah named the argument. Good we can come back on this, because we didn't concl

Olympia's Beautiful and Profound Mind

2005-05-13 Thread Brian Scurfield
Bruno recently urged me to read up on Tim Maudlin's movie-graph argument against the computational hypothesis. I did so. Here is my version of the argument. According to the computational hypothesis, consciousness supervenes on brain activity and the important level of

Re: Which is Fundamental?

2005-05-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 12-mai-05, à 05:53, Lee Corbin a écrit : Bruno, I certainly wish you the absolute best of luck in deriving a law of physics from comp! Getting a version of string theory that afforded predictions would be as nothing in comparison from starting from incompleteness (in math) and deriving physics