RE: Observer-Moment Measure from Universe Measure

2005-06-04 Thread "Hal Finney"
Lee Corbin writes: > But in general, what do observer-moments explain? Or what does the > hypothesis concerning them explain? I just don't get a good feel > that there are any "higher level" phenomena which might be reduced > to observer-moments (I am still very skeptical that all of physics > or

Hypothetical shaman's dilemma

2005-06-04 Thread rmiller
Here's a hypothetical situation. Your plane goes down in the wilds and you're rescued by a tribe indigenous to the area. You're wearing the latest clothes from the GAP, so the tribe elders decide you're a candidate for shaman apprentice--a position that comes with nice lodging and pays well i

RE: Observer-Moment Measure from Universe Measure

2005-06-04 Thread Lee Corbin
Hal Finney has provided some intriguing notions and possibly some very useful explanations. But I would like help in clarifying even the first several paragraphs, in order to maximize my investment in the remainder. But first a few comments; these may be premature, but if so, the comments should b

When and How Unconscious Processes Matter

2005-06-04 Thread Lee Corbin
Brent wrote > -Original Message- > From: Brent Meeker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:39 AM > To: Everything-List > Subject: RE: Functionalism and People as Programs > I think there is considerable evidence to support the view that human level > intelligence cou

Existence of Copies (was RE: Functionalism and People as Programs)

2005-06-04 Thread Lee Corbin
Stephen writes > > Stephen writes > > > > > I really do not want to be a stick-in-the-mud here, but > > > what do we base the idea that "copies" could exist upon? Don't worry about not going along with someone's program ;-) I think that you're just being polite by calling yourself a stick-in-the-

RE: Functionalism and People as Programs

2005-06-04 Thread rmiller
At 12:36 PM 6/4/2005, Lee Corbin wrote: R. Miller writes > Lee Corbin wrote: > > Exposure to a nuclear detonation at 4000 yds typically kills about 1 in a > million cells. When that happens, you die. I would suggest that is a bad > metaphor. Well, my numbers, above, are *entirely* differe

RE: Functionalism and People as Programs

2005-06-04 Thread Lee Corbin
R. Miller writes > Lee Corbin wrote: > >Stephen writes > > > > > I really do not want to be a stick-in-the-mud here, > > > but what do we base the idea that "copies" could > > > exist upon? > > > > It is a conjecture called "functionalism" (or one of its close variants). > > "Functionalism," at l

RE: Equivalence

2005-06-04 Thread Lee Corbin
Sorry, but I don't have much of an idea of what is being discussed in this thread. Could you try to enlighten me? Rmiller originally wrote > Equivalence > If the individual exists simultaneously across a many-world manifold, then > how can one even define a "copy?" Well, I would say this (i.e.

RE: Many Pasts? Not according to QM...

2005-06-04 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Lee Corbin writes: Stathis writes > ...I think we may basically agree, but there are some differences. If you > look at it from a third person perspective, continuity of personal identity > over time is not only a delusion but a rather strange and inconsistent > delusion. I'm not quite sure