Re: Numbers

2006-03-12 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Quentin: I do not see that at all. All that has been demonstrated is that a list can be so mapped not that such a mapping must exist. The list can still be first. Hal Ruhl At 02:37 PM 3/12/2006, you wrote: >Hi, > >Le Dimanche 12 Mars 2006 20:11, Hal Ruhl a écrit : > > Lists and numbe

Re: Numbers

2006-03-12 Thread John M
Thanks, the 'truncation' occurs in the process of Reply B U T it happens frequently in this awful Yahoo!-mail maze that when I try ANYTHING while writing a reply (or compose a mail) the text disappears without recall. I wrote to Bruno a pretty well thought-through reply to his post to

Re: Numbers

2006-03-12 Thread Georges Quénot
John M wrote: > > Georges, > this is to your reflections to my remarks. It starts > to look like a private discussion on-list, Not completely. And some may also follow the discussion an find it interesting even if they do not participate (as I often do for other threads). > but I love it. So d

Re: Numbers

2006-03-12 Thread Georges Quénot
John M wrote: > > [...] > === message truncated === If for some reason you receive the message truncated in your mail tool, you can probably get the full texte from the site: http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list Georges. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You rece

Re: Numbers

2006-03-12 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Hi, Le Dimanche 12 Mars 2006 20:11, Hal Ruhl a écrit : > Lists and numbers: > > My model's only assumption [I think] is a countably infinite list of > possible properties of objects. For a list to have the property of being countably infinite require that natural numbers exist before... becau

Re: Numbers

2006-03-12 Thread Hal Ruhl
Lists and numbers: My model's only assumption [I think] is a countably infinite list of possible properties of objects. Dividing the list defines two objects. There would be an uncountably infinite number of such divisions of the list. No operator is necessary but different divisions of th

Re: Numbers

2006-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi John, Le 11-mars-06, à 23:40, John M a écrit : > [Reductionist thinking is the way the human mind CAN > function at our present level. I disagree. No serious scientific paper can be reductionnist. Many media and scientist themselves (the week-end in the lucky case) defend reductionist inte

Re: Numbers

2006-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 11-mars-06, à 10:59, Georges Quénot wrote (to John): > > Yes also and indeed, the way of thinking I presented > fits within a reductionist framework. Nobody is required > to adhere to such a framework (and therefore to the way > of thinking I presented). If one rejects the reductionist > a