Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-14 Thread Mohsen Ravanbakhsh
Bent, Stathis, Suppose that space is discrete. It has some elementary unit. Let's call it SU. Suppose there are 3 of these units out there in a right triangular fashion( L shape) Then what is the distance between two distant angles? is it made up of some integer numbers of space unit? Pythagoras'

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-14 Thread Torgny Tholerus
Stathis Papaioannou skrev: On 3/13/07, Mohsen Ravanbakhsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not necessarily. If you draw a diagonal on a square on a computer screen, it will be made up of a discrete number of pixels despite what Pythagoras' theorem calculates. Irrational in the real world

String theory and Cellular Automata

2007-03-14 Thread Mohsen Ravanbakhsh
I'm thinking there's some kind of similarity between string theory and depicting the world as a big CA. In String theory we have some vibrating strings which have some kind of influence on each other and can for different matters and fields. CA can play such role of changing patterns and of course

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-14 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3/14/07, Torgny Tholerus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stathis Papaioannou skrev: On 3/13/07, Mohsen Ravanbakhsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Not necessarily. If you draw a diagonal on a square on a computer screen, it will be made up of a discrete number of pixels despite what Pythagoras'

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-14 Thread Torgny Tholerus
Stathis Papaioannou skrev: On 3/14/07, Torgny Tholerus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stathis Papaioannou skrev: How can you be sure? Maybe space is discrete. Yes, space (and time) is discrete. Everything in the universe is finite, and the universe itself is finite.

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-14 Thread David Nyman
On Mar 14, 9:44 am, Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/14/07, Kim Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is conceivable that the physical world might not exist, or God not exist, or God exist but not make the physical world, but it is not conceivable that circles or integers or

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-14 Thread Brent Meeker
Torgny Tholerus wrote: Stathis Papaioannou skrev: On 3/14/07, *Torgny Tholerus* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stathis Papaioannou skrev: How can you be sure? Maybe space is discrete. Yes, space (and time) is discrete. Everything in the universe is

Re: String theory and Cellular Automata

2007-03-14 Thread Brent Meeker
Mohsen Ravanbakhsh wrote: I'm thinking there's some kind of similarity between string theory and depicting the world as a big CA. In String theory we have some vibrating strings which have some kind of influence on each other and can for different matters and fields. CA can play such role

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-14 Thread John Mikes
Kim, thanks for your observing 'lurking' about the 'hatchet'. I do not believe that we would have buried it into each others' head, I accepted that Bruno may be irritated (by my question/remark, or by other business). To your choice of Q-#1: recalls my usual doubt in Mark's Plain English: does

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-14 Thread John Mikes
Russell, I apologize for my flippant quip of yesterday, it was after several hours of reading and replying internet discussion lists. Besides: it was true.G I never considered the features named as distinguishing 'colors' in QCD as poles. Also it is new to me that the strong force has 3 poles.

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-14 Thread 明迪
My reply to the topic: The question How to calculate the Universe? by definition is equivalent to the question how to calculate Everything, including the answer to the question what is the meaning of life. It justifies our existence even if we were not to know exactly the meaning of it. :-)

Re: String theory and Cellular Automata

2007-03-14 Thread Colin Hales
Hi, See previous posts here re EC - Entropy Calculus. This caught my eye, thought I'd throw in my $0.02 worth. I have been working on this idea for a long while now. Am writing it up as part of my PhD process. The EC is a lambda calculus formalism that depicts reality. It's actual

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-14 Thread David Nyman
On Mar 14, 10:18 pm, Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps using the term existence for mathematical objects is misleading. It doesn't mean they exist as separate objects in the real world, just that they exist as concepts. This is mathematical Platonism. Yes, I understand.

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-14 Thread Brent Meeker
David Nyman wrote: On Mar 14, 10:18 pm, Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps using the term existence for mathematical objects is misleading. It doesn't mean they exist as separate objects in the real world, just that they exist as concepts. This is mathematical

Re: String theory and Cellular Automata

2007-03-14 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:57:57AM +1100, Colin Hales wrote: The EC is a lambda calculus formalism that depicts reality. It's actual instantation with one particular and unbelievable massive axiom set is the universe we are in. The instantation is literally the CA of the EC primitives.

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-14 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3/15/07, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torgny Tholerus wrote: Stathis Papaioannou skrev: On 3/14/07, *Torgny Tholerus* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stathis Papaioannou skrev: How can you be sure? Maybe space is discrete. Yes, space (and

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-14 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/15/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torgny Tholerus wrote: Stathis Papaioannou skrev: On 3/14/07, *Torgny Tholerus* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]