Re: Why Objective Values Exist

2007-08-19 Thread marc . geddes
>3PV observation and analysis _may_ eventually turn up with objective >criteria that establish universally consistent and reliable >correlation between certain brain processes and certain reported >phenomenal experiences Of course. It appears from all scientific evidence that phenomenal experien

Re: Why Objective Values Exist

2007-08-19 Thread marc . geddes
On Aug 19, 11:17 pm, "Giu1i0 Pri5c0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question: why do you _want_ > to think that there are objective values? > G. Here's my answer: I want to to think that there are objective values because I dislike the idea that important aspects of our (human) existence are inex

Re: Why Objective Values Exist

2007-08-19 Thread marc . geddes
On Aug 19, 11:17 pm, "Giu1i0 Pri5c0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Marc welcome back! I had not seen you here for months. No. That's because after the terrible insults levelled at me by some I had to take a break to make absolutely certain that my arguments, theories (and java code) are all

Re: [SPAM] Re: Why Objective Values Exist

2007-08-19 Thread Mark Peaty
MG: 'It's really quite obvious in retrospect - physical > properties involve energy, mathematical properties involve knowledge > (meaningful patterns). Old David Chalmers was right about this one > (see his 'property dualism'). The two properties just ain't the same > and no amount of semantic t

Re: Why Objective Values Exist

2007-08-19 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 19/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This all makes sense if you are referring to the values of a > > particular entity. Objectively, the entity has certain values and we > > can use empirical means to determine what these values are. However, > > if I like red and you li

Re: Why Objective Values Exist

2007-08-19 Thread Giu1i0 Pri5c0
Hi Marc welcome back! I had not seen you here for months. Concerning objective values, as we have discussed in the past, I don't see any rational argument in support of their existence. For example if one has chosen to consider the elimination of the human species as a priority value (like some fu