Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread Samiya Illias
That's a refreshingly new take on evolution! At least, I can say for myself that my preference for junk food is evolving to a preference for fruits and vegetables :) On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: If evolution by natural selection were correct, then

Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread Samiya Illias
That's a refreshingly new take on evolution! At least, I can say for myself that my preference for junk food is evolving to a preference for fruits and vegetables :) On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: If evolution by natural selection were correct, then

Re: This is the Dream Time

2011-06-23 Thread Rex Allen
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 22 Jun 2011, at 01:56, Rex Allen wrote: Related to the Progress and Happiness thread: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/this-is-the-dream-time.html But I am not sure there will be a point where everything worth

Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread Rex Allen
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Pilar Morales pilarmorales...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Rex, thank you for generating this tread. Nice subject title. My comments below On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: Even something that IS good for us will cause less

Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 23 Jun 2011, at 18:27, Rex Allen wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Pilar Morales pilarmorales...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Rex, thank you for generating this tread. Nice subject title. My comments below On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-06-23 Thread Rex Allen
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 6/21/2011 8:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But comp denies that we can prove that a machine can think. Of course we can prove that some machine has this or that competence. But for intelligence/consciousness, this is not

Re: This is the Dream Time

2011-06-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 23 Jun 2011, at 17:40, Rex Allen wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 22 Jun 2011, at 01:56, Rex Allen wrote: Related to the Progress and Happiness thread: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/this-is-the-dream-time.html But I am not

Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread meekerdb
On 6/23/2011 9:27 AM, Rex Allen wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Pilar Morales pilarmorales...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Rex, thank you for generating this tread. Nice subject title. My comments below On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Rex Allenrexallen31...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-06-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 23 Jun 2011, at 19:29, Rex Allen wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 6/21/2011 8:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But comp denies that we can prove that a machine can think. Of course we can prove that some machine has this or that competence. But

Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 23 Jun 2011, at 20:25, meekerdb wrote: On 6/23/2011 9:27 AM, Rex Allen wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Pilar Morales pilarmorales...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Rex, thank you for generating this tread. Nice subject title. My comments below On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Rex

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-06-23 Thread meekerdb
On 6/23/2011 10:29 AM, Rex Allen wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 6/21/2011 8:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But comp denies that we can prove that a machine can think. Of course we can prove that some machine has this or that competence.

Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread benjayk
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:35 AM, benjayk benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com wrote: Rex Allen wrote: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:08 PM, benjayk benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com wrote: Rex Allen wrote: If evolution by natural selection were correct, then it seems to me that if the

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-06-23 Thread benjayk
First off, I want to say it's really pleasant and interesting to communicate with you. You are a really open minded guy and you are very sincere in communicating ideas that can lead people (and society) to more freedom, without pretending to know it all. I really appreciate that. :) Bruno

Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread benjayk
Jason Resch-2 wrote: I've posted this link before, and it is a long read, but I think it is a great piece which shows what technology ultimately can accomplish: http://frombob.to/you/aconvers.html I like the story. In my opinion it potrays advanced beings too much like human beings with

Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread meekerdb
On 6/23/2011 12:36 PM, benjayk wrote: To the latter I absolutely agree. Rules will always be broken. But rules won't eliminate fierce competition. It won't just dissapear, either. It will be superseded by an deeper ability to cooperate that is brought about mainly by technology. It is not

Re: Progress and Happiness

2011-06-23 Thread benjayk
meekerdb wrote: On 6/23/2011 12:36 PM, benjayk wrote: To the latter I absolutely agree. Rules will always be broken. But rules won't eliminate fierce competition. It won't just dissapear, either. It will be superseded by an deeper ability to cooperate that is brought about mainly by

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-06-23 Thread Terren Suydam
Hi Bruno, thanks for your comments... see below. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Comp requires only that you can imagine surviving with an artificial digital brain. Then a reasoning shows that your consciousness is more attached to all the possible