Re: Two Studies. Visual Cortex does not see. Consciousness is not thought.

2012-04-06 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Craig, You may like this paper as well Klemm, W. (2010). Free will debates: Simple experiments are not so simple, Advances in Cognitive Psychology http://versita.metapress.com/content/l820g65u22883625/fulltext.pdf I have seen it on a Russian cite: http://nature-wonder.livejournal.com/189090

Re: Primitive Awareness and Symmetry: Late error detection

2012-04-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
Evgenii, I believe that you are unfair to Jeffery Gray. As I have mentioned, his conclusion was that the modern science (here as accepted by a majority of scientists) cannot explain conscious phenomena. Hence, in a way he was ready to reconsider the accepted scientific framework. I can ap

Re: Primitive Awareness and Symmetry: Late error detection

2012-04-06 Thread meekerdb
On 4/6/2012 9:26 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Bruno, I believe that you are unfair to Jeffery Gray. As I have mentioned, his conclusion was that the modern science (here as accepted by a majority of scientists) cannot explain conscious phenomena. Hence, in a way he was ready to reconsider the acc

Re: Primitive Awareness and Symmetry: Late error detection

2012-04-06 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Bruno, I believe that you are unfair to Jeffery Gray. As I have mentioned, his conclusion was that the modern science (here as accepted by a majority of scientists) cannot explain conscious phenomena. Hence, in a way he was ready to reconsider the accepted scientific framework. The differenc

Re: Primitive Awareness and Symmetry: Late error detection

2012-04-06 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Apr 5, 12:41 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > We do not know what kind of computing brain does. It well might be that > at the level of neuron nets it was simpler to create a conscious display > than to employ other means. That assumes that such a means was a prori possible. Why would it be? It w

Two Studies. Visual Cortex does not see. Consciousness is not thought.

2012-04-06 Thread Craig Weinberg
Two more reasons to suspect that consciousness is received through the brain directly as primitive sense rather than decoded as complex information. "The data from the seven participants were unambiguous. Paying attention to the target consistently and strongly increased the fMRI activity, regardl

Re: Primitive Awareness and Symmetry: Late error detection

2012-04-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Apr 2012, at 22:53, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 05.04.2012 21:44 meekerdb said the following: On 4/5/2012 11:49 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Display to whom? the homunculus? No, he creates an interesting scheme to escape the homunculus: p. 110. “(1) the unconscious brain constructs a disp