Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2012, at 17:48, John Clark wrote: > If the nothing of a vacuum is really full of potentials, If you insist on the strictest definition of "nothing" which is not even the potential of producing anything, then even God Himself could not produce something from nothing; and this lin

A crazy thoughts about structure of Electron.

2012-05-04 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
A crazy thoughts about structure of Electron. =. Electron isn’t a point. Electron has a geometrical form. Electron’s geometrical form isn’t static, isn’t firm. Electron’s geometrical form can be changed by his own inner spin. Electron’s own inner spin can be described with three ( 3 ) formulas: Pla

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-04 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 4, 8:00 pm, Pierz wrote: > Bertrand Russell pointed out long ago that the properties of the > members of a set need not be properties of the set itself. I.e., > everything in the universe may have a cause but the universe - the set > of all things - need not. We can argue about whether the

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-04 Thread Pierz
Bertrand Russell pointed out long ago that the properties of the members of a set need not be properties of the set itself. I.e., everything in the universe may have a cause but the universe - the set of all things - need not. We can argue about whether the ontological nature of the "set of everyth

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-04 Thread meekerdb
On 5/4/2012 2:18 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On May 4, 4:42 pm, meekerdb wrote: On 5/4/2012 12:39 PM, John Mikes wrote: I see the development into more understanding (did I say: better? No) of the belief miraculous that governed human thinking earlier. "Understanding" is one of those words o

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-04 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 4, 4:42 pm, meekerdb wrote: > On 5/4/2012 12:39 PM, John Mikes wrote: > > > > > I see the development into more understanding (did I say: better? No) > > of the belief miraculous that governed human thinking earlier. > > "Understanding" is one of those words often misunderstood.  It is used

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-04 Thread meekerdb
On 5/4/2012 12:39 PM, John Mikes wrote: I see the development into more understanding (did I say: better? No) of the belief miraculous that governed human thinking earlier. "Understanding" is one of those words often misunderstood. It is used to refer both to a feeling of familiarity and emp

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-04 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 4, 3:39 pm, John Mikes wrote: > Craig: > you seem to be firmly anchored in a reductionist conventional view of the > "know-it-all" model of yesterday. I think that I am instead, comfortably camped out in a "make sense of it all" model of tomorrow which embraces and rejects both reductionis

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-04 Thread John Mikes
Craig: you seem to be firmly anchored in a reductionist conventional view of the "know-it-all" model of yesterday. Which is OK with me, as YOUR opinion. I consider - in my agnostic limitations - those 'factors' (rather: relations) we did not encounter SO FAR and give an extended view to the model.

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-04 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 4, 11:48 am, John Clark wrote: > On Thu, May 3, 2012 Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > Why would focusing on one issue be a distraction from the other? > > Because Human Beings do not have infinite time to deal with, so time spent > focusing on issues that Krauss correctly describes as sterile (

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-04 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 3, 2012 Craig Weinberg wrote: > Why would focusing on one issue be a distraction from the other? Because Human Beings do not have infinite time to deal with, so time spent focusing on issues that Krauss correctly describes as sterile (not leading to new ideas) is time not spent focu

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 May 2012, at 23:45, meekerdb wrote: On 5/3/2012 1:25 PM, John Clark wrote: Lawrence M Krauss, author of the excellent book "Why is there something rather than nothing?" recently wrote a article in Scientific American, here is one quote I like" It may be that even an eternal multiver