Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Nov 2012, at 19:41, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: I have no idea what its personal memory of the past in the future means It is the content of the diary that the candidate brings with him in the teleportation box, and in which he

Re: Doesn't UDA simply imply that teleportation is impossible?

2012-11-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Nov 2012, at 20:27, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/12/2012 11:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 11 Nov 2012, at 21:16, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/10/2012 10:02 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/10/2012 5:44 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 05:14:47PM -0800, meekerdb wrote:

Re: Plato's cave analogy

2012-11-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Nov 2012, at 20:29, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/12/2012 11:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 11 Nov 2012, at 23:35, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/11/2012 10:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Nov 2012, at 12:32, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Plato says that we all live in a

Re: Doesn't UDA simply imply that teleportation is impossible?

2012-11-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Nov 2012, at 00:48, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/12/2012 12:50 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Nov 2012, at 17:08, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 11 Nov 2012, at 21:16, Stephen P. King wrote: This is what I wish to know and understand as well! AFAIK, comp seems to only define a single

Re: Plato's cave analogy

2012-11-13 Thread Stephen P. King
On 11/13/2012 10:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: There is a cost in resource utilization (or entropy generation) to gain knowledge. I can still agree. Then the comp consequence is that the physical resources are derivable from a notion of arithmetical resource. Dear Bruno, Could you explain

Re: Doesn't UDA simply imply that teleportation is impossible?

2012-11-13 Thread Stephen P. King
On 11/13/2012 11:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Nov 2012, at 00:48, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/12/2012 12:50 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Nov 2012, at 17:08, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 11 Nov 2012, at 21:16, Stephen P. King wrote: This is what I wish to know and understand as

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-13 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: As for what the Helsinki Man imagines will happen to him after he pushes that button I really don't care because that depends entirely on the particular personal beliefs of the man involved. That is non sense. If

Re: life: origin, purpose, and qualia spectrum

2012-11-13 Thread Hal Ruhl
This is an effort to clarify what I have said in earlier posts. I think it strengths the idea that we have a very substantial problem on our hands. [Terms not defined herein have the usual “Laws of Physics” definition] 1) Definition {1}: Energy (E) is the ability to subject a mass to a

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-13 Thread Jason Resch
On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:53 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: As for what the Helsinki Man imagines will happen to him after he pushes that button I really don't care because that depends entirely on the