Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

> On 06-Dec-2014, at 11:15 am, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 12/5/2014 9:56 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: >> >> >> On 06-Dec-2014, at 10:25 am, meekerdb wrote: >> On 12/5/2014 3:16 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: As a person who takes the Quran literally, I'm not at all surprised as it

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

On 12/5/2014 9:56 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: On 06-Dec-2014, at 10:25 am, meekerdb > wrote: On 12/5/2014 3:16 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: As a person who takes the Quran literally, I'm not at all surprised as it is stated that the ancients had been given much more, a

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

> On 06-Dec-2014, at 10:25 am, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 12/5/2014 3:16 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: >> As a person who takes the Quran literally, I'm not at all surprised as it is >> stated that the ancients had been given much more, and we haven't been given >> a tenth of what they had. >> Samiy

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

On 12/5/2014 3:16 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: As a person who takes the Quran literally, I'm not at all surprised as it is stated that the ancients had been given much more, and we haven't been given a tenth of what they had. Samiya Well then you must be surprised that our computers are much fast

Re: real A.I.

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 Richard Ruquist wrote: > What I want to know is if anyone takes conservation of energy seriously? > I take Noether's Theorem seriously so I take seriously the idea that nobody who lives in a universe when the laws of physics do not change with time will ever observe a violat

Re: real A.I.

What I want to know is if anyone takes conservation of energy seriously? On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 12/5/2014 8:20 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:06 AM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 12/4/2014 8:05 PM, LizR wrote: >> >>> I suspect that Bruno is di

Re: real A.I.

On 12/5/2014 8:20 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:06 AM, meekerdb > wrote: On 12/4/2014 8:05 PM, LizR wrote: I suspect that Bruno is differentiating physical existence from primary existence. What's the difference? Isn't phys

Re: Origins

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: > For anybody who might be interested in what it says in the Quran about > creation [...] > Except as a historical curiosity who would be interested in reading about the opinions a illiterate merchant who lived 1500 years ago had on creation w

Re: real A.I.

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:06 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 12/4/2014 8:05 PM, LizR wrote: > >> I suspect that Bruno is differentiating physical existence from primary >> existence. >> > > What's the difference? Isn't physical existence the paradigmatic case? > the example we point to when asked to def

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

there is a documentary in youtube about this device 2014-12-05 5:48 GMT+01:00 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com>: > For those who get into this kind of stuff. > > > > http://www.gizmag.com/antikythera-mechanism-date/35016/ > World's oldest computer may be

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

As a person who takes the Quran literally, I'm not at all surprised as it is stated that the ancients had been given much more, and we haven't been given a tenth of what they had. Samiya > On 05-Dec-2014, at 2:17 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Which go in the direction that may be Archimedes

Re: World's oldest computer may be older than previously thought

Which go in the direction that may be Archimedes could have found, or that greeks would have emit much earlier, a Church-Turing thesis, and that without the stopping of science/theology by the Roman Christians, the whole of computer science could have been born much earlier. But in occident

Re: real A.I.

On 05 Dec 2014, at 08:06, meekerdb wrote: On 12/4/2014 8:05 PM, LizR wrote: I suspect that Bruno is differentiating physical existence from primary existence. What's the difference? Isn't physical existence the paradigmatic case? the example we point to when asked to define "exits"? Ph

Re: real A.I.

On 05 Dec 2014, at 05:37, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:10 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: real A.I. On 0

Re: real A.I.

On 05 Dec 2014, at 05:05, LizR wrote: I suspect that Bruno is differentiating physical existence from primary existence. Absolutely. This comes from the UDA (Universal Dovetailer Argument). Something exist physically if you can bet on it with a probability one in the arithmetical multip

Re: real A.I.

On 04 Dec 2014, at 22:05, John Mikes wrote: Bruno: one of your tiny little aberrations: how did "existence" changed in your argument into "physical existence"? I am studying the digital version of the antic Mechanism idea, already explained to the king Milinda (plausibly the greek king ca