Re: Non-locality and MWI

2016-04-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 21/04/2016 3:26 pm, smitra wrote: On 20-04-2016 07:36, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 20/04/2016 3:21 pm, smitra wrote: On 20-04-2016 03:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 20/04/2016 6:56 am, smitra wrote: The mistake made is to invoke classical reasoning after the measurements are made. If the choice for

Re: Non-locality and MWI

2016-04-20 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/20/2016 10:34 PM, smitra wrote: On 20-04-2016 07:49, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/19/2016 10:21 PM, smitra wrote: On 20-04-2016 03:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 20/04/2016 6:56 am, smitra wrote: The mistake made is to invoke classical reasoning after the measurements are made. If the choice

Re: Non-locality and MWI

2016-04-20 Thread smitra
On 20-04-2016 07:49, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/19/2016 10:21 PM, smitra wrote: On 20-04-2016 03:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 20/04/2016 6:56 am, smitra wrote: The mistake made is to invoke classical reasoning after the measurements are made. If the choice for the orientation of the polarizers w

Re: Non-locality and MWI

2016-04-20 Thread smitra
On 20-04-2016 07:36, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 20/04/2016 3:21 pm, smitra wrote: On 20-04-2016 03:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 20/04/2016 6:56 am, smitra wrote: The mistake made is to invoke classical reasoning after the measurements are made. If the choice for the orientation of the polarizers we

Re: Non-locality and MWI

2016-04-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 21/04/2016 1:34 am, Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Bruce Kellett mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote: So, the fact that these simulated results were supposed to have come from an entangled singlet pair has not been used anywhere in your simulation. It ha

Re: Bektashi Alevi

2016-04-20 Thread Samiya Illias
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Hi Samya, > > I already told you that Soufism is, in Islam, and from the theological > point of view, the closer to the machine's theology, which is not > astonishing given that they are closer to Neoplatonism too (and I have > explained

Re: Aharanov-Bohm non-locality is an artifact of invoking classical potentials

2016-04-20 Thread John Mikes
Dear Saibal, what makes you think that we can deduct (know??) anything rightfully about the REAL WORLD into our feable human mind? You may LIKE more the QM than the classical versions, but that is no verification. We obtain(ed) SOME input about the 'WORLD' and deposited it adjusted to the capabil

Re: Non-locality and MWI

2016-04-20 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:21 AM, smitra wrote: > ​> ​ > Invoking FAPP is precisely where your argument goes wrong. ​After looking up the meaning of that unfamiliar technical term I would have to agree.​ > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fapp ​ John K Clark​ -- You received

Re: Cryonics punched cards and the brain

2016-04-20 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > ​> ​logically, it is conceivable to have structure containing themselves, >> >> > ​>> ​ >> ​Fine, but it is not logical to have something that is not part of itself >> be part of itself; like a place that is not part of the multiverse you ca

Re: Non-locality and MWI

2016-04-20 Thread Jesse Mazer
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > So, the fact that these simulated results were supposed to have come from > an entangled singlet pair has not been used anywhere in your simulation. It > has only ever been used to link the copies of Alice and Bob, the statistics > that the

Re: Bektashi Alevi

2016-04-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Do you have any essays floating about, that you have written concerning machine theology (Lobian machines I am guessing)? -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2016 3:21 am Subject: Bektashi Alevi Hi Samya, I already told you that Soufism

Bektashi Alevi

2016-04-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Samya, I already told you that Soufism is, in Islam, and from the theological point of view, the closer to the machine's theology, which is not astonishing given that they are closer to Neoplatonism too (and I have explained that the mathematical theology of the universal machine is c