Re: Is Nature unnatural?

2017-02-09 Thread Telmo Menezes
Thanks Brent! On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 5:07 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: > This fails to consider the holographic model of the universe. In the bulk > model the energy density of the vacuum is overestimated by the ratio of the > Hubble volume to it's boundary area (both in

Re: Is Nature unnatural?

2017-02-09 Thread Brent Meeker
This fails to consider the holographic model of the universe. In the bulk model the energy density of the vacuum is overestimated by the ratio of the Hubble volume to it's boundary area (both in Planck units). The holographic model may not be right - but it shows that it's silly to regard

Is Nature unnatural?

2017-02-09 Thread Telmo Menezes
https://www.quantamagazine.org/read-offline/4739/20130524-is-nature-unnatural.print -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-09 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:11 PM, John Clark wrote: > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:34 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: > > >>> > Does the agnostic or the atheist have >>> t >>> he correct scientific >>> stance regarding a teapot in orbit around Uranus? I like

Re: AI apocalypse

2017-02-09 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:25 PM, auxon wrote: > I've been working on this problem for years and years, to be able to > implement something like the 3 laws of Robotics, and make the code immutable > so even if they reproduce, they cannot evolve alone. Blockchain technology

Re: AI apocalypse

2017-02-09 Thread Brent Meeker
Neat idea. Good luck. Brent On 2/9/2017 10:25 AM, auxon wrote: I've been working on this problem for years and years, to be able to implement something like the 3 laws of Robotics, and make the code immutable so even if they reproduce, they cannot evolve alone. Blockchain technology paves

Re: My model, comp, and the Second Law

2017-02-09 Thread auxon
My initial thoughts looking at your first ref in the old posts, is that you should read The Monadology in the light of your theory, and tell me what you think about that. On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 7:02:13 PM UTC-5, hal Ruhl wrote: > > > Hi Everyone: > > Its been a while since I posted. > >

Re: AI apocalypse

2017-02-09 Thread auxon
I've been working on this problem for years and years, to be able to implement something like the 3 laws of Robotics, and make the code immutable so even if they reproduce, they cannot evolve alone. Blockchain technology paves the way for this and I incorporated as Botcoin Inc. as part of a

Re: My model, comp, and the Second Law

2017-02-09 Thread auxon
I can't wait to dig into this. On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 7:02:13 PM UTC-5, hal Ruhl wrote: > > > Hi Everyone: > > Its been a while since I posted. > > I would like to start a thread to discuss the Second Law of Thermodynamics > and the possibility that its origins can be found in perhaps

Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-09 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:34 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > Does the agnostic or the atheist have >> ​ t​ >> he correct scientific >> ​ ​ >> stance regarding a teapot in orbit around Uranus? I like what the great >> ​ ​ >> Isaac Asimov >> ​ ​ >> had to say on the subject: >

Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-09 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/9/2017 6:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Many religious people believe that the idea that God cares more on humans than on spiders (say) is just utter arrogance, vanity, and delusional. "Many"? That's the fallacy of the dangling comparison. Many compared to what? Not compared to the

Re: An invisible amoral mindless metaphorical form of arithmetic, aka "God"

2017-02-09 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​ > Hi people, > ​ ​ > I think that this post is pure trolling. > ​Of course, anyone who disagrees with the great Bruno Marchal can't be sincere and can only be a troll. > ​> ​ > John comes back with questions already

Re: An invisible amoral mindless metaphorical form of arithmetic, aka "God"

2017-02-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi people, I think that this post is pure trolling. John comes back with questions already answered. Any one can find the answers in the previews posts. If anyone else has a question on this, please ask, or comment, but in this present case we are looping. Does anyone else have a

Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Feb 2017, at 20:15, Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/8/2017 9:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Feb 2017, at 04:53, Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/7/2017 9:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Which is exactly why I'm explicit in defining what the theism is that I consider preposterous and what other

Re: From Atheism to Islam

2017-02-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Feb 2017, at 05:05, Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/7/2017 10:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: This world. The one I can interact with. Ah! You mean this dream. yes, it looks we can share part of it, and interact with many users, like in second life. But to believe there is a primary