Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 5:10:46 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/26/2018 9:24 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:43:30 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/26/2018 6:21 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:10:25 AM

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 9:24 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:43:30 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/26/2018 6:21 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:10:25 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/26/2018 4:14 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 4:24:44 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:43:30 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/26/2018 6:21 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:10:25 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:43:30 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/26/2018 6:21 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:10:25 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/26/2018 4:14 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:25:29

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 8:02 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* On 4/26/2018 7:16 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 4/26/2018 5:55 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* On 4/26/2018 3:41 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: My point was that if there

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
From: *Brent Meeker* > On 4/26/2018 7:16 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 4/26/2018 5:55 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* > On 4/26/2018 3:41 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: My point was

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 7:16 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 4/26/2018 5:55 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* > On 4/26/2018 3:41 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: My point was that if there is a record that a measurement was made, something

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 4/26/2018 5:55 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* > On 4/26/2018 3:41 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: My point was that if there is a record that a measurement was made, something irreversible has been extracted from the experiment.

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 6:21 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:10:25 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/26/2018 4:14 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:25:29 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/26/2018 2:33 PM, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 5:55 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* On 4/26/2018 3:41 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *John Clark* > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:02 PM, wrote: ​ > ​ / How

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:10:25 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/26/2018 4:14 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:25:29 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/26/2018 2:33 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 5:31 PM, smitra wrote: you can use qubits to represent spins and let some AI generated by a quantum computer measure the x-component of a spin polarized in the positive z-direction and then play this same game of erasing the memory of the AI But there's the rub.  What does it

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 4:14 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:25:29 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/26/2018 2:33 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 9:09:48 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/26/2018 7:23 AM, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Samiya Illias
This should be of interest: Allah, the fāṭir (فَاطِر) of the Skies and Earth *Excerpt:* ... String Theory postulates that the Universe is a symphony, composed of vibrating strings (the most fundamental

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
From: *Brent Meeker* > On 4/26/2018 3:41 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *John Clark* > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:02 PM, > wrote:

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 3:41 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *John Clark* On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:02 PM, wrote: ​ > ​ / How many times must I remind you that Feynman explained that very clearly. / ​ 42.​ ​ > ​ /Please repeat

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
From: *smitra* > On 27-04-2018 00:41, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: JOHN CLARK > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:02 PM, > wrote:

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread smitra
On 27-04-2018 00:41, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: JOHN CLARK On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:02 PM, wrote: ​ > ​ How many times must I remind you that Feynman explained that very clearly. ​ 42.​ ​ > ​ _Please repeat it. AG_ I originally sent this

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:25:29 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/26/2018 2:33 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 9:09:48 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/26/2018 7:23 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
From: *John Clark* > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:02 PM, > wrote: ​ > ​ / How many times must I remind you that Feynman explained that very clearly. / ​ 42.​ ​ > ​

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 2:33 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 9:09:48 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/26/2018 7:23 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 4:12:41 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/25/2018 7:44 PM, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 12:12 PM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:02 PM, > wrote: ​> ​ / How many times must I remind you that Feynman explained that very clearly. / ​42.​ ​> ​ /Please repeat it. AG/ I

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 9:09:48 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/26/2018 7:23 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 4:12:41 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/25/2018 7:44 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 4/26/2018 7:23 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 4:12:41 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/25/2018 7:44 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:17:31 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/25/2018 6:39 PM, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Entanglement of macro objects

2018-04-26 Thread Brent Meeker
NEAT!   Maintaining entanglement for that long should allow testing whether the entanglement persists over different gravitational potentials. Brent On 4/26/2018 4:42 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: A news story from the Australian ABC shows that it is not just photons or silver atoms that can

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 7:12:31 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:02 PM, > wrote: > > ​> ​ >> >> * How many times must I remind you that Feynman explained that very >> clearly.* >> > > ​42.​ > > > ​> ​ >> *Please repeat it. AG* >> > > I

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:02 PM, wrote: ​> ​ > > * How many times must I remind you that Feynman explained that very > clearly.* > ​42.​ ​> ​ > *Please repeat it. AG* > I originally sent this on December 14 2017: David Deutsch proposed a test of Many Worlds about 30

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 5:39:34 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:55 PM, wrote > >> *> when you factor into consideration that non locality persists in the >> many worlds postulated -- assuming you accept Bruce's analysis -- what >> exactly

Re: What is a Löbian machine/number/combinator

2018-04-26 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> *​* > *If you have an argument against step 3 just show it.* > ​*FOR GODS SAKE * You want to go back years to day one when this entire idiotic conversation started and rehash it all over again, but I'd rather

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:55 PM, wrote > *> when you factor into consideration that non locality persists in the > many worlds postulated -- assuming you accept Bruce's analysis -- what > exactly has been gained by asserting the MWI?* What has been gained is that in the

Re: Disclosure Project

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
Biography of Brigadier General Arthur Ernest Exon http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/104819/brigadier-general-arthur-ernest-exon/ Note that he had a responsible position at Wright Patterson AFB at time of Roswell incident. Later, in 1964, he was appointed commander of the

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 10:51:13 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal > > On 22 Apr 2018, at 01:47, Bruce Kellett < > bhke...@optusnet.com.au > wrote: > > From: smitra > > > On 22-04-2018 00:18, Brent Meeker wrote: > >> On 4/21/2018 12:42

Re: Entanglement

2018-04-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 4:12:41 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/25/2018 7:44 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:17:31 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/25/2018 6:39 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> *On its face it's absurd to think the

Entanglement of macro objects

2018-04-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
A news story from the Australian ABC shows that it is not just photons or silver atoms that can become entangled. This is interesting stuff.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-04-26/quantum-physics-entanglement-shown-massive-objects-first-time/9687076 Bruce -- You received this

Re: What is a Löbian machine/number/combinator

2018-04-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Apr 2018, at 16:14, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:09 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: > > > The above is about how Bruno keeps answering your questions, and then you > > either pretend that he

Re: What is a Löbian machine/number/combinator

2018-04-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Apr 2018, at 19:28, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 12:21 AM, Russell Standish > wrote: > > >> How can I determine if that particular Turing Machine is doing something > >> fundamentally

Re: What is a Löbian machine/number/combinator

2018-04-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Apr 2018, at 18:04, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > With a T a theory that admits diagonalization and for Bew(x) a formula with a > free x,.we have > > ├_T S ↔ Bew(gn(S)). > > The Löb theorem involves the diagonalization in T D(x,y) such that for any