Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 10/23/2018 9:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 23 Oct 2018, at 04:30, Brent Meeker wrote: On 10/22/2018 6:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The mathematical reality has noting to do with languages, except that languages are needed if machine/people want to share the results of their

Measuring a system in a superposition of states vs in a mixed state

2018-10-23 Thread agrayson2000
If a system is in a superposition of states, whatever value measured, will be repeated if the same system is repeatedly measured. But what happens if the system is in a mixed state? TIA, AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group.

Re: Quantum outperforms classical

2018-10-23 Thread Brent Meeker
Thanks. On 10/23/2018 1:56 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: I posted/tweeted about that elsewhere a couple a weeks ago: *Quantum Computers Speed Up Classical with Probability Zero* Yuri Ozhigov https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9803064 also by Ozhigov: *Constructive physics* Yuri Ozhigov

Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-23 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 11:23:22 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > On 23 Oct 2018, at 04:30, Brent Meeker > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 10/22/2018 6:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> The mathematical reality has noting to do with languages, except that > languages are needed if

Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-23 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 11:13:52 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 22 Oct 2018, at 19:33, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 8:54:47 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 22 Oct 2018, at 14:38, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, October

Re: Interpretation of Superposition

2018-10-23 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 10:33:13 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 23 Oct 2018, at 11:20, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-5, scerir wrote: >> >> >> *The original 'cat' was, of course, Einstein's 'gunpowder' paradox.* >> >> *'The

Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Oct 2018, at 04:30, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 10/22/2018 6:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> The mathematical reality has noting to do with languages, except that >> languages are needed if machine/people want to share the results of their >> exploration. > > So how do you prove

Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Oct 2018, at 19:33, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 8:54:47 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 22 Oct 2018, at 14:38, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 6:05:41 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 21 Oct

Re: Interpretation of Superposition

2018-10-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Oct 2018, at 11:20, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-5, scerir wrote: > > > The original 'cat' was, of course, Einstein's 'gunpowder' paradox. > > 'The system is a substance in chemically unstable equilibrium, perhaps a > charge of

Re: Interpretation of Superposition

2018-10-23 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
> Il 23 ottobre 2018 alle 13.42 agrayson2...@gmail.com ha scritto: > > > > On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 10:36:16 AM UTC, scerir wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Il 23 ottobre 2018 alle 11.20 Philip Thrift < > > cloud...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Interpretation of Superposition

2018-10-23 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 10:36:16 AM UTC, scerir wrote: > > > Il 23 ottobre 2018 alle 11.20 Philip Thrift > ha scritto: > > > > On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-5, scerir wrote: > > > *The original 'cat' was, of course, Einstein's 'gunpowder' paradox.* > > *'The system is

Re: Interpretation of Superposition

2018-10-23 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 6:41:06 AM UTC, scerir wrote: > > > Il 22 ottobre 2018 alle 23.20 agrays...@gmail.com ha > scritto: > > > > On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 5:39:28 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 9:08:47 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > >

Re: Interpretation of Superposition

2018-10-23 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
> Il 23 ottobre 2018 alle 11.20 Philip Thrift ha > scritto: > > > > On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-5, scerir wrote: > > > > > > > > The original 'cat' was, of course, Einstein's 'gunpowder' paradox. > > > > 'The system is a substance in

Re: Interpretation of Superposition

2018-10-23 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-5, scerir wrote: > > > *The original 'cat' was, of course, Einstein's 'gunpowder' paradox.* > > *'The system is a substance in chemically unstable equilibrium, perhaps a > charge of gunpowder that, by means of intrinsic forces, can spontaneously >

Re: Quantum outperforms classical

2018-10-23 Thread Philip Thrift
I posted/tweeted about that elsewhere a couple a weeks ago: *Quantum Computers Speed Up Classical with Probability Zero* Yuri Ozhigov https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9803064 also by Ozhigov: *Constructive physics* Yuri Ozhigov https://arxiv.org/abs/0805.2859 - pt On Monday, October 22, 2018

Re: Interpretation of Superposition

2018-10-23 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
> Il 22 ottobre 2018 alle 23.20 agrayson2...@gmail.com ha scritto: > > > > On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 5:39:28 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 9:08:47 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >