Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 7:32 AM John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 1:22 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: > > *> Depends what you mean by "couldn't be true"--my understanding is that >> Einstein's EPR paper was just asserting that there must be additional >> elements of reality beyond the quantum

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-20 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 1:22 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: *> Depends what you mean by "couldn't be true"--my understanding is that > Einstein's EPR paper was just asserting that there must be additional > elements of reality beyond the quantum description* > Yes, Einstein thought he had proven that

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-20 Thread Jesse Mazer
Depends what you mean by "couldn't be true"--my understanding is that Einstein's EPR paper was just asserting that there must be additional elements of reality beyond the quantum description (for example, that correlations between distant particles could be explained in terms of extra unseen

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-20 Thread John Clark
In Einstein's 1935 EPR paper he thought he had found a consequence of quantum mechanics that was a Reductio Ad Absurdum proof that it couldn't be true. But he forgot that for such a proved to be valid you need to do more than prove that something is ridiculous, you need to prove that it's

Re: The multiverse is unscientific nonsense??

2023-11-20 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 11:44 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> It has been suggested that the cosmic multiverse and the quantum > multiverse of Everett are the same thing. But I think that this idea is > patently ridiculous.* > Perhaps so, but is it ridiculous enough to be true? Quantum mechanics