Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2004-02-21 Thread Ron McFarland
On 2 Nov 2003 at 14:16, Ron McFarland wrote: > Greetings list members. This is my joining post. > > Recent headlines indicate that there is empirical evidence now that > our known universe is about 13 billion years old, it is essentially > flat, and that space/time continues to be inflationary

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-16 Thread Ron McFarland
Hi, George. I'm sorry for the lateness of my reply; thankfully I've been very busy. I find your thoughts interesting in that they seem distantly relative to fractional charges we attribute to some things, such as quarks, although one might argue that they are only fractional because they were

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-14 Thread George Levy
Ron, I am not a physicist, just a dabbling engineer philosoper, however, the idea of dark energy is intriguing. I asked a question a few weeks ago, whether dark (mass) energy is identical to negative (mass) energy and what the implications would be in terms of Newton mechanics. The reason for

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-14 Thread Ron McFarland
Looks like this topic ended with my last post of 3 days ago. Thank you to those who contributed. I've no idea how things will really settle out in a Theory of Everything related to physics. My arguments are but one view point, certainly not the most educated, and until some time in the future i

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-11 Thread Ron McFarland
On 9 Nov 2003 at 16:22, Brent Meeker wrote: > In the intial relativistic models of the origin of the universe, the > matter began with very high energy so it expanded against the pull of > gravity. Taking the zero of energy to be when the matter is > infinitely dispersed, as is usual, the net en

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-09 Thread Ron McFarland
On 9 Nov 2003 at 11:20, Brent Meeker wrote: >The theory of supersymmetry implied that all particles could decay to >photons. As the universe expands photons lose energy through >redshift. So the universe would decay asymptotically to zero energy >density. That's not exactly the same a decaying to

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-09 Thread Ron McFarland
On 8 Nov 2003 at 20:35, Brent Meeker wrote: … > A balloon model neglects inhomogeneties that allow gravity to dominate > locally. … > at short range the weak, electromagnetic, and > strong force dominate. … > Of course almost anything is possible at the Planck scale. What you > are proposing are

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-08 Thread Ron McFarland
Greetings, Brent. Thanks for joining the conversation! On 8 Nov 2003 at 14:37, Brent Meeker wrote: > I think you are misinterpreting inflation. The cosmological >constant produces an inflationary pressure that's proportional to >volume, so over large distances it dominates over gravity. But o

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-08 Thread Ron McFarland
On 7 Nov 2003 at 10:25, Joao Leao wrote: > OK. I get your point. That "supersolipsistic" situation is rendered > somewhat unlikely by the fact that galaxies seem to be structuraly > stable (the dark matter issue), in other words, they do not seem to > berak apart with the accelerated expansion. The

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-07 Thread Joao Leao
Ron McFarland wrote: On 3 Nov 2003 at 16:45, Joao Leao wrote: > Part II: > >It is not the distance that contributes, it is the > > relative rate of expansion that contributes to the apparent redshift > > (all other factors that can contribute to redshift being ignored for > > the purpose of conce

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-07 Thread Ron McFarland
On 6 Nov 2003 at 21:20, James N Rose wrote: > If we are now observing acceleration, > that means there was Inflation (huge acceleration) > and then a huge reduction in acceleration. > > So, what bled off the extra original acceleration > momentum? Or countered it? A mind bending question. Gree

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-06 Thread James N Rose
If we are now observing acceleration, that means there was Inflation (huge acceleration) and then a huge reduction in acceleration. So, what bled off the extra original acceleration momentum? Or countered it? Are we do believe that this 'dark matter' which is out there 'increasing acceleration

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-06 Thread Ron McFarland
On 3 Nov 2003 at 16:45, Joao Leao wrote: > Part II: > >It is not the distance that contributes, it is the > > relative rate of expansion that contributes to the apparent redshift > > (all other factors that can contribute to redshift being ignored for > > the purpose of concentrating only on the

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-05 Thread George Levy
Welcome to the list Ron. Could someone please explain dark energy in simple terms : newtonian terms + mass-energy equivalence for example using equations such as  F= Gm1m2/r^2,  F=ma and  E=mc^2 . Could such equations describe to a first approximation the forces and accelerations involved whe

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-03 Thread Ron McFarland
On 3 Nov 2003 at 10:18, Joao Leao wrote: > Wow Ron! That is a lot of answer for me! > I will have to split mine in two installments > if you don't mind. My apology for the length of the answer. The answer was for the most part a restatement of something I wrote and was aired on radio over a deca

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-03 Thread Joao Leao
Wow Ron! That is a lot of answer for me! I will have to split mine in two installments if you don't mind. Ron McFarland wrote: > Thank you list for the welcome. I look forward to many congenial > debates! > > > > > > I am sorry but you seem to contradict yourself below! > > You state, quit

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-02 Thread Ron McFarland
Thank you list for the welcome. I look forward to many congenial debates! On 2 Nov 2003 at 22:05, Joao Leao wrote: > On Nov 2, 2003, at 5:16 PM, Ron McFarland wrote: > > > Greetings list members. This is my joining post. > > > > Recent headlines indicate that there is empirical evidence now tha

Re: Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-02 Thread Joao Leao
On Nov 2, 2003, at 5:16 PM, Ron McFarland wrote: Greetings list members. This is my joining post. Recent headlines indicate that there is empirical evidence now that our known universe is about 13 billion years old, it is essentially flat, and that space/time continues to be inflationary (we are

Dark Matter, dark eneggy, & conservation

2003-11-02 Thread Ron McFarland
Greetings list members. This is my joining post. Recent headlines indicate that there is empirical evidence now that our known universe is about 13 billion years old, it is essentially flat, and that space/time continues to be inflationary (we are in a continuing big bang state) after experienc