Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Mar 2014, at 23:07, Gabriel Bodeen wrote: On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:12:33 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: It looks like you have not yet grasped the UDA. My post was not about the UDA; your comments are appreciated but they miss the mark widely. You post was not on UDA, but I

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Mar 2014, at 18:58, Gabriel Bodeen wrote: I think the argument usually goes like this: Suppose there's an infinite ensemble of the computations that include a mental state that remembers having been you as you are now. There are a lot of details needed to support such a mental

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
Very nice Richard. Not easy read though, but you preach a choir. I believe that string theory is testable. Like comp. Yet, even if string theory is confirmed, we would still have to derived it from comp, if it is the real theory, and not a local panorama. Bruno On 19 Mar 2014, at

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Mar 2014, at 23:06, meekerdb wrote: On 3/19/2014 9:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Mar 2014, at 22:20, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: Sodid anyone's ToE predict this outcome? I am not sure you are 100% serious on this, but the question is very interesting, so I will make some

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-20 Thread meekerdb
On 3/20/2014 11:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Mar 2014, at 23:06, meekerdb wrote: On 3/19/2014 9:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Mar 2014, at 22:20, ghib...@gmail.com mailto:ghib...@gmail.com wrote: Sodid anyone's ToE predict this outcome? I am not sure you are 100% serious on

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-20 Thread Gabriel Bodeen
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:12:33 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: It looks like you have not yet grasped the UDA. My post was not about the UDA; your comments are appreciated but they miss the mark widely. -Gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-20 Thread LizR
Lubos Motl has a good discussion of what's ruled out on his blog. http://motls.blogspot.co.nz/2014/03/bicep2-some-winners-and-losers.html Very interesting! (IF) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-20 Thread LizR
An article on the secrecy involved. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2014/03/secret-bicep-inflation/ On 21 March 2014 11:58, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Lubos Motl has a good discussion of what's ruled out on his blog.

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-20 Thread LizR
Yay! More gravity waves! [?] http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2014/01/wired-space-photo-of-the-day-2014#slide-id-513201:full On 21 March 2014 15:37, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: An article on the secrecy involved. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2014/03/secret-bicep-inflation/ On 21

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Mar 2014, at 22:20, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: Sodid anyone's ToE predict this outcome? I am not sure you are 100% serious on this, but the question is very interesting, so I will make some comments, which might not been taken 100% seriously. At first, we might say that any

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-19 Thread Gabriel Bodeen
I think the argument usually goes like this: Suppose there's an infinite ensemble of the computations that include a mental state that remembers having been you as you are now. There are a lot of details needed to support such a mental state. Let's say it takes a minimum of N bits. Longer

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-19 Thread Richard Ruquist
Here is a prediction of the ratio of tensor to scalar of gravitational waves. They just got the ratio a bit low at 0.07 whereas the measured ratio is 0.2. http://arxiv.org/abs/0808.0706 Gravity Waves and Linear Inflation from Axion Monodromy Liam

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-19 Thread meekerdb
On 3/19/2014 9:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Mar 2014, at 22:20, ghib...@gmail.com mailto:ghib...@gmail.com wrote: Sodid anyone's ToE predict this outcome? I am not sure you are 100% serious on this, but the question is very interesting, so I will make some comments, which might not

RE: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-18 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR You might also like to see Chris de Morsella's post. I'm not sure how to link to it but the title is First direct evidence of cosmic inflation Here is the link:

Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread Kim Jones
Inflation appears now to be evidenced http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=hootsuiteutm_campaign=hootsuite Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread ghibbsa
Sodid anyone's ToE predict this outcome? On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:14:00 PM UTC, Kim Jones wrote: Inflation appears now to be evidenced http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=hootsuiteutm_campaign=hootsuite

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread Kim Jones
OK - so I should have written Gravitational Wave (Gravity waves are something else.) K On 18 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Inflation appears now to be evidenced

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread ghibbsa
On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:21:20 PM UTC, Kim Jones wrote: OK - so I should have written “Gravitational Wave” (Gravity waves are something else.) K Oh, thanks for saying thatI thought they meant gravity waves. Which - I thought - was a major prediction of Inflation. -- You

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread LizR
Only if you're being very nitpicky... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave I would say in the context of astrophysics or cosmology, everyone should know what your mean if you say gravity wave (i.e. you mean a gravitational wave). And it's shorter to type. On 18 March 2014 10:21, Kim

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread LizR
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2014-05 On 18 March 2014 11:24, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:21:20 PM UTC, Kim Jones wrote: OK - so I should have written Gravitational Wave (Gravity waves are something else.) K Oh, thanks for saying thatI thought they

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread LizR
This is very cool. Gravitational waves and inflation in one feel swoop. (Well, a 3-year fell swoop.) On 18 March 2014 12:20, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2014-05 On 18 March 2014 11:24, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:21:20 PM UTC,

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread LizR
You might also like to see Chris de Morsella's post. I'm not sure how to link to it but the title is First direct evidence of cosmic inflation On 18 March 2014 12:21, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: This is very cool. Gravitational waves and inflation in one feel swoop. (Well, a 3-year fell

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread LizR
Scientific American said Gravity Waves in the page title so I wouldn't worry too much! On 18 March 2014 10:21, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: OK - so I should have written Gravitational Wave (Gravity waves are something else.) K On 18 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Kim Jones

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread LizR
Mind you BICEP2 is a rubbish acronym. On 18 March 2014 13:12, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Scientific American said Gravity Waves in the page title so I wouldn't worry too much! On 18 March 2014 10:21, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: OK - so I should have written Gravitational

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread LizR
What's wrong with SPOTS detector (Swirly Pattern On The Sky) ? :-) On 18 March 2014 14:11, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Mind you BICEP2 is a rubbish acronym. On 18 March 2014 13:12, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Scientific American said Gravity Waves in the page title so I wouldn't