re:Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-10-24 Thread Marchal Bruno
Saibal Mitra wrote: Bruno wrote: At 16:25 +0200 11/10/1996, Saibal Mitra wrote: You can still have realism, but it must be the case that at least some of the things we think of as ``real physical objects´´ like e.g. electrons are not real. What would that mean? What would be real? Even in my

re:Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-10-24 Thread Marchal Bruno
Gordon wrote: But you have an inconsistent idea in that on the one hand a theory which say that they are physical object that becoame no physical and then just comp pure comp.Now although I dont thing it that narrow just like the old Clock work view, I do think that your theory can be simpler in

Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-10-11 Thread Saibal Mitra
Onderwerp: Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here? If Gerard 't Hooft's deterministic account of Quantum field is both realist and Lorentz invariant, it would contradict Bell's theorem or Kochen and Specker theorem, or GHZ (Greenberger, Horn, Zeilinger

Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-10-11 Thread George Levy
Saibal Mitra wrote: Suppose you are a virtual person, programmed by me and living in a virtual environment. You do some experiments to find the laws of physics. You try to break up things and look what they are ``made of´´. Would you ever discover how the pentium processor works if you

Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-10-07 Thread Saibal Mitra
- Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 4 oktober 2002 18:13 Onderwerp: Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here? At 9:36 -0700 1/10/2002, Tim May wrote: MWI looks

Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 9:36 -0700 1/10/2002, Tim May wrote: MWI looks, then, like just another variant of modal realism. To wit, there IS a universe in which unicorns exist, and another in which Germany won the Second World War, but these universes are forever and completely out of touch with us. Not quite due

Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-10-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 12:26 -0700 30/09/2002, Tim May wrote: If the alternate universes implied by the mainstream MWI (as opposed to variants like consistent histories) are actual in some sense, with even the slightest chance of communication between universes, then why have we not seen solid evidence of such

Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-10-01 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, October 1, 2002, at 06:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: At 12:26 -0700 30/09/2002, Tim May wrote: If the alternate universes implied by the mainstream MWI (as opposed to variants like consistent histories) are actual in some sense, with even the slightest chance of communication

Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-09-30 Thread Tim May
If the alternate universes implied by the mainstream MWI (as opposed to variants like consistent histories) are actual in some sense, with even the slightest chance of communication between universes, then why have we not seen solid evidence of such communication? Amongst the universes, many

Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-09-30 Thread Russell Standish
It could just mean that communication between the universes is impossible. Which is not surprising, really, as the division between universes in the MWI is what allows conscious thought to exist. It is perhaps of more interest to other multi-universe scenarios that are independent of the

Re: Many Fermis Interpretation Paradox -- So why aren't they here?

2002-09-30 Thread r strasser
So Deutsch feels that if such a computer is built, the case for many worlds will be compelling." -Bob Strasser - Original Message - From: Russell Standish Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Many Fermis Interpretation P