Le 25-mai-05, à 13:11, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit :
Lee Corbin writes:
> But we *still* don't know what it feels like to *be* the code
> implemented on a computer.
> We might be able to guess, perhaps from analogy with our own
> experience, perhaps by running the code in our head; but once
Lee Corbin writes:
> But we *still* don't know what it feels like to *be* the code
> implemented on a computer.
> We might be able to guess, perhaps from analogy with our own
> experience, perhaps by running the code in our head; but once
> we start doing either of these things, we are replacin
Stathis writes
> Lee Corbin writes:
>
> > I anticipate that in the future it will, as you say so well,
> > be shown that "appropriate brain states necessarily lead to
> > conscious states", except I also expect that by then the
> > meaning of "conscious states" will be vastly better informed
> >
Lee Corbin writes:
[quoting Stathis]
> I would still say that even if it could somehow
> be shown that appropriate brain states necessarily lead to conscious
states,
> which I suspect is the case, it would still not be clear how this comes
> about, and it would still not be clear what this is
Le 24-mai-05, à 14:03, Lee Corbin a écrit :
Yes, but I don't think that there is any answer to the "hard problem".
Concretely, I conjecture that of the 10^5000 or so possible strings
of 5000 words in the English language, not a single one of them solves
this problem.
And in French ?;)
Stathis writes
> > Do you imagine that it's possible that we could go to
> > another star, and encounter beings who discoursed with
> > us about every single other thing, yet denied that they
> > had consciousness, and professed that they had no idea
> > what we were talking about?
>
> The above
Lee Corbin wrote:
A friend sends me this link:
http://members.aol.com/NeoNoetics/CONSC_INFO_PANPSY.html
which will perhaps be of interest to a number of people here.
But the familiar first sentence just sends me into orbit:
The hard problem of consciousness, according to
David Chalmers
Dear Lee,
Are we not dancing around the Turing Test here?
Stephen
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Bruno writes
Bruno writes
> > Do you imagine that it's possible that we could go to
> > another star, and encounter beings who discoursed with
> > us about every single other thing, yet denied that they
> > had consciousness, and professed that they had no idea
> > what we were talking about? Yes or No! I want
Le 22-mai-05, à 08:27, Lee Corbin a écrit :
But the familiar first sentence just sends me into orbit:
The hard problem of consciousness, according to
David Chalmers, is explaining why and how
experience is generated by certain particular
configurations of physical stuff.
Just how
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