Russell Standish wrote:
As I am bound to paraphrase, Free Will is the ability to do somehthing
completely stupid!
Would you accept:
Freedom is the right to deny 2 + 2 = 5.
(cf. George Orwell torture scene in 1984)
Free Will is the right to say 2 + 2 = 5
(cf. Russell Standish) ?
of these
underlying processes.
Charles
-Original Message-
From: Brent Meeker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 9:34 a.m.
To: rwas
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ODP: Free will/consciousness/ineffability
Whatever free will is, it is very doubtful
Pete Carlton wrote:
Hi all,
I've been lurking for months and am continually amazed by the discussions
going on - I got into this list after branching out from philosophy of
mind, after something like the GP/UDA (though completely lacking in
rigor) had surfaced in a discussion I was in about
Interesting, although I suspect the interpretation of the ability to
do somehthing completely stupid is more like asserting the truth of
an unprovable statement than asserting the truth of a false
statement. In modal logic, this would be (x -[]x ) n'est-ce pas?
Note an automaton cannot assert
Pete Carlton wrote:
George Levy wrote:
snip
Free will is also relativistic. A consciousness gives the impression of
having free will if its behavior is unpredicatble (ineffable -
unprovable) BY THE OBSERVER. The self gives the impression to the
OBSERVING SELF of having free
rwas wrote:
--- Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brent Meeker wrote:
On 10-Oct-01, Marchal wrote:
You talk like if you have a proof of the existence of matter. Like
if
it was
obvious subtancia are consistent. But you know substancia only
appears
in Aristote mind when
Zbigniew Motyka wrote:
[...]
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal
It would be not polite from my side to express any opinion about UDA before
I really make acquaintance with it.
Thanks. I whish everyone were like you :-)
For now I may only repeat: When you start from some suitable axiomatic
Brent Meeker wrote:
On 10-Oct-01, Marchal wrote:
You talk like if you have a proof of the existence of matter. Like if
it was
obvious subtancia are consistent. But you know substancia only appears
in Aristote mind when he misunderstood Plato doctrine on intelligible
ideas.
(My opinion!).
Zbigniew Motyka wrote:
Marchal wrote:[[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -Re: Free
will/consciousness/ineffability, 01-10-01(see below)]:
I don't believe in matter (personal opinion)
Comp is incompatible (in some sense) with existing matter (my thesis).
(...)
I agree and that is why I believe that IF we
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