RE: Belief Statements

2005-01-29 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 28 Jan 2005 Hal Finney wrote: Here's how I look at the question of whether a bit string, if accidentally implemented as part of another program, would be conscious. . . . I would approach this from the Schmidhuber perspective that all programs exist and run, in a Platonic sense, and this

RE: Belief Statements

2005-01-29 Thread Hal Ruhl
I recently posted that I seemed to have two theories re how my multiverse might work. These are: 1) Nothing - Something = to completion. 2) {Nothing#(n) + All[(n-1) = evolving Somethings]} - {Nothing#(n+1) + All[n = evolving Somethings]} : repeat... Here: - is a

RE: Belief Statements

2005-01-29 Thread Hal Finney
On 28 Jan 2005 Hal Finney wrote: I suggest that the answer is that accidental instantiations only contribute an infinitesimal amount, compared to the contributions of universes like ours. Stathis Papaioannou replied: I don't understand this conclusion. A lengthy piece of code (whether it

RE: Belief Statements

2005-01-29 Thread Hal Ruhl
I meant to define the symbol = as: = is a path over kernels where each new step is inconsistent with prior steps. Hal Ruhl

Re: Belief Statements

2005-01-29 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Hal, What your defining seems to me to be a NOT map or else it is a mere random map. There is no consistent definition of an inconsistent map otherwise, IMHO. Please explain how I am wrong. ;-) Why not a map that is a path where the information associated with each step is

Re: Belief Statements

2005-01-29 Thread Hal Ruhl
At 06:29 PM 1/29/2005, you wrote: Dear Hal, What your defining seems to me to be a NOT map or else it is a mere random map. There is no consistent definition of an inconsistent map otherwise, IMHO. Please explain how I am wrong. ;-) I wanted to have a sequence that does not accumulate net

Re: Belief Statements

2005-01-29 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Hal, What do you propose as a means to explain the memory and processing required to be sure of inconsistency as opposed to consistency? Both options, it seems to me, require checking of some kind! All that is left is randomness, there is no such a thing as a true test for randomness

Re: Belief Statements

2005-01-29 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Stephen: At 10:49 PM 1/29/2005, you wrote: Dear Hal, What do you propose as a means to explain the memory and processing required to be sure of inconsistency as opposed to consistency? It is not a logical inconsistency. What I am trying to convey is that each step in the sequence pays no