Re: Believing in Divine Destiny

2007-02-28 Thread Saibal Mitra
The only connection I can think of is as follows. For any given religious text there should exist a universe which best fits those text. Saibal - Original Message - From: Wei Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:55 PM Subject:

Re: Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Peaty
Dream on Brent ... Regards Mark Peaty CDES [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.arach.net.au/~mpeaty/ Brent Meeker wrote: Klortho wrote: The other thing I do is check to what extent a person's speech and writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of civilisation:

Re: [SPAM] Re: Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countle

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Peaty
OK, tell me where all those civilisations of the past have gone to, because THEY did NOT survived. Tell me what makes YOU so sure this current global civilisation can survive. I am more than happy to be shown where I am wrong, but if you TRULY disagree with what I am saying, I would like you

Re: [SPAM] Re: Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countle

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Peaty
Well [EMAIL PROTECTED] your response has been even more disappointing than even my very low expectation prepared me for. You have not even recognised what my questions were about, let alone made any significant attempt to address them. As an ex-Christian I know what it is like to be sucked

Re: [SPAM] Re: Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countle

2007-02-28 Thread Brent Meeker
Torgny Tholerus wrote: Mark Peaty skrev: However, we must call a spade a spade; all this guff that gets called 'theology' and 'spirituality' is ultimately a bunch of assertions that can neither be proved nor disproved in any concrete sense because they are all expressions of belief and

Re: Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute

2007-02-28 Thread Brent Meeker
Are you saying I just dreamed that Sumer, Ur, Egypt, Babylon, Rome, Sparta, Cathay, and the Indus Valley where civilization first developed and lasted for thousands of years (much longer than the U.S. which is the oldest existing democracy) were not democratic and pre-dated the scientific

Re: Believing in Divine Destiny

2007-02-28 Thread John M
Excellent, Saibal Mitra! Thanx! Now you just have to quantize the miracles into a physix that fits those scriptures - into 'physical laws' of those religions. Maybe it would require a different math as well, to make a fit. And do not forget about the calory-supply of Hell. (Brimstone requires

Re: Believing ...

2007-02-28 Thread John M
Brent, as usual, you have hard replies. Just one exception: I do not mean 'each and individual mindset' as the term 'belief system', but this is hard to explain. Most scientifically educated westerners - or many religious faithfuls can argue among themselves. I never tried to speculate about