Brent, 

as usual, you have hard replies. Just one exception: 
I do not mean 'each and individual mindset' as the term 'belief system', but 
this is hard to explain. Most scientifically educated westerners - or many 
religious faithfuls can argue among themselves. I never tried to speculate 
about identifying what constitutes a 'different belief system', but 'system' 
must be more than just shades of individual differentiation in the details. 

John M

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brent Meeker 
  To: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Believing in Divine Destiny



  John Mikes wrote:
  > Stathis:
  > You, of all people, should realize that one belief system cannot reach 
  > over to
  > another one. Logic - mindset is different, "facts" come in different 
  > shades, "evidence" is
  > adjusted to the 'system', a belief system is a whole world.
  > Brent makes the same mistake: to argue from his 'scientific' (is it 
  > really - in the
  > conventional old sense???) mindset with statements of the faithful, but 
  > it is a
  > geerally committed error - while you, a learned mind-scientist should know
  > better.
  > I am not on top of this myself: I fall frequently into arguing from my 
  > 'rational'
  > worldview into the (rational for them) faith-induced mentality.
  > 
  > We are the (negligible) minority. "They" have less doubts than us.
  > 
  > So I thank [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (whoever he 
  > or she may be) for the
  > valuable intofmation about the Muslim culture and take it as that.
  > We will never get a jihadic self-sacrificer to accept that his 
  > expectation of the
  > huris waitnig for pleasuring him 'over there' is unfounded. It is for 
  > him and who
  > cares (in my view) for 'happenings' of our present (human) copmplexity 
  > after it
  > dissolved (call it death) into disintegration?
  > 
  > A year ago or so Wei Dai put an end to religious discussions on the list.
  > That was in the Judeochristian domain. He was right on the button.
  > Is the Judeochrismuslim argumental domain different?
  > Such discussions cannot be resolved into any agreement of the 2 poles.
  > 
  > Anybody arguing  - MY - point?

  I guess it would be futile to discuss anything with you, since you believe 
each of us is hermetically sealed in their own belief system.  I don't agree - 
but that's my error.

  Brent Meeker



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