Brent, as usual, you have hard replies. Just one exception: I do not mean 'each and individual mindset' as the term 'belief system', but this is hard to explain. Most scientifically educated westerners - or many religious faithfuls can argue among themselves. I never tried to speculate about identifying what constitutes a 'different belief system', but 'system' must be more than just shades of individual differentiation in the details.
John M ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent Meeker To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Believing in Divine Destiny John Mikes wrote: > Stathis: > You, of all people, should realize that one belief system cannot reach > over to > another one. Logic - mindset is different, "facts" come in different > shades, "evidence" is > adjusted to the 'system', a belief system is a whole world. > Brent makes the same mistake: to argue from his 'scientific' (is it > really - in the > conventional old sense???) mindset with statements of the faithful, but > it is a > geerally committed error - while you, a learned mind-scientist should know > better. > I am not on top of this myself: I fall frequently into arguing from my > 'rational' > worldview into the (rational for them) faith-induced mentality. > > We are the (negligible) minority. "They" have less doubts than us. > > So I thank [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (whoever he > or she may be) for the > valuable intofmation about the Muslim culture and take it as that. > We will never get a jihadic self-sacrificer to accept that his > expectation of the > huris waitnig for pleasuring him 'over there' is unfounded. It is for > him and who > cares (in my view) for 'happenings' of our present (human) copmplexity > after it > dissolved (call it death) into disintegration? > > A year ago or so Wei Dai put an end to religious discussions on the list. > That was in the Judeochristian domain. He was right on the button. > Is the Judeochrismuslim argumental domain different? > Such discussions cannot be resolved into any agreement of the 2 poles. > > Anybody arguing - MY - point? I guess it would be futile to discuss anything with you, since you believe each of us is hermetically sealed in their own belief system. I don't agree - but that's my error. Brent Meeker --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---