Re: A scary theory about IS

2015-09-19 Thread Brent Meeker
On 9/18/2015 7:34 PM, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 Bruno Marchal > wrote: ​ > ​ Well, the term "capitalism" is ambiguous. I am all for the free market, but only with a regulating system making it not breaking some

Re: A scary theory about IS

2015-09-19 Thread John Mikes
Bruno, even before (your?) prohibition-S there was some capitalistic system in the US, leading to inequality and injustice in the economical status of the population. I am not talking Marxism. The diverse prohibition-S (and other installments) just made it worse. The basic question is *"FREEDOM"

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-19 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 , Bruno Marchal wrote: ​ >> ​>> ​ >> Theorems don't make calculations, physical microprocessor chips do.​ > > > ​> ​ > Physical computer are implementation, in the math sense, of turing > universality by physical devices. > ​What makes you so certain that

Re: A scary theory about IS

2015-09-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Sep 2015, at 21:37, John Mikes wrote: Bruno: could you please define "free market" (system?) into YOUR terms? Free, but not free indeed, as you wrote: "only with a regulating system making it not breaking some laws,... " Basically that was the state in the US before prohibition.

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-09-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Sep 2015, at 20:55, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​I will answer your next post if it contains something new. ​Then I guess it contained something new.​ ​>​>>​ ​that can be emulated in arithmetic as all computations can be emulated

Re: A scary theory about IS

2015-09-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Sep 2015, at 04:34, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​Well, the term "capitalism" is ambiguous. I am all for the free market, but only with a regulating system making it not breaking some laws, like defamation of products and

Re: Could we live forever?

2015-09-19 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​ > You need an infinitely expanding brain to live an eternity, if not, you > will cycle. > ​To prevent cycling a mind wouldn't need to be infinite just unlimited, whenever you start to run low you just add more memory banks, but

Re: Could we live forever?

2015-09-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Sep 2015, at 19:09, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: ​>​The irony is that if you have the cognitive ability to conceive that you can survive qua "yes doctor", then you have the cognitive ability to understand that you are immortal no

Re: Could we live forever?

2015-09-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Sep 2015, at 17:53, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 Brent Meeker wrote: ​​>>​ If you knew you were immortal why on earth would you ​ be risk averse? ​> ​Not having a built in biological life span is very different from being immortal. Immortal means