Re: An idea to resolve the 1st Person/3rd person division mystery - Coarse graining is the answer!?

2007-05-05 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 03:07:54AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Been thinking about Bruno's often talked 1st person/3rd Person > division. Had a series of insights that seem to connect up to some > ideas of my own. > > Essentially my idea resolves around 'coarse graining' and the > possi

Re: An idea to resolve the 1st Person/3rd person division mystery - Coarse graining is the answer!?

2007-05-05 Thread Mark Peaty
MG: "> Well, again, this is a functional description of *some* aspects of > consciousness with which we are familiar. I would say that > consciousness in general does not require does not require a self > model. Reflection on the motivation system generates self-awareness I > think, but other t

Re: An idea to resolve the 1st Person/3rd person division mystery - Coarse graining is the answer!?

2007-05-05 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 04/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems to me that 'coarse graining' could provide a means for time > to 'stratify' into different levels. Now let me elaborate a little. > Coarse graining is the 'level of detail' at which we observe reality. > If we observe reality 'wit

Re: An idea to resolve the 1st Person/3rd person division mystery - Coarse graining is the answer!?

2007-05-05 Thread marc . geddes
On May 5, 10:05 pm, Mark Peaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MG: > 'There is no doubt that the nature of consciousness is closely > > > associated with time in some way - but exactly how? The relationship > > between time (time flow and also causality) may be far closer than > > many realize. C

Re: An idea to resolve the 1st Person/3rd person division mystery - Coarse graining is the answer!?

2007-05-05 Thread Mark Peaty
MG: 'There is no doubt that the nature of consciousness is closely > associated with time in some way - but exactly how? The relationship > between time (time flow and also causality) may be far closer than > many realize. Could consciousness in fact be *identical* to time in > some peculiar sen