Re: against UD+ASSA, part 1

2007-09-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 11:30:52AM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > On 01/10/2007, Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It isn't, because Mallah's DA + ASSA predicts a negligible probability > > of finding oneself in an OM of (say) greater than 120 years old, > > whereas with t

Re: against UD+ASSA, part 1

2007-09-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 01/10/2007, Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It isn't, because Mallah's DA + ASSA predicts a negligible probability > of finding oneself in an OM of (say) greater than 120 years old, > whereas with the RSSA one has the QTI predictions, and experiencing > being 200 years old is not

Re: No(-)Justification Justifies The Everything Ensemble

2007-09-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 06:56:43PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Le 27-sept.-07, à 12:43, Russell Standish a écrit : > > > > > It may well be that Darwinism is some marriage of information theory > > with a multiverse idea, but it is not obvious how this works. I'd take > > it as a fairly f

Re: against UD+ASSA, part 1

2007-09-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 10:21:41PM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > On 30/09/2007, Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Incidently, this is the core of Jacques Mallah's argument against > > QTI. In the end, I discovered that his argument was internally > > consistent, but reli

Re: against UD+ASSA, part 1

2007-09-30 Thread Jesse Mazer
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > >Is the DA incompatible with QI? According to MWI, your measure in the >multiverse is constantly dropping with age as versions of you meet >their demise. According to DA, your present OM is 95% likely to be in >the first 95% of all OM's available to you. Well, that's w

Re: against UD+ASSA, part 1

2007-09-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 30/09/2007, Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 08:17:34PM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > > Is the DA incompatible with QI? According to MWI, your measure in the > > multiverse is constantly dropping with age as versions of you meet > > their demise.

Re: against UD+ASSA, part 1

2007-09-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 10:49:27AM +0200, Günther Greindl wrote: > > Hello all, > > I have always found these doomsday arguments rather strange (and the > mathematics, nice as the equations may be, resting on false premises). > > Assuming that OM are distributed unevenly, at the moment you are

Re: against UD+ASSA, part 1

2007-09-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 08:17:34PM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > Is the DA incompatible with QI? According to MWI, your measure in the > multiverse is constantly dropping with age as versions of you meet > their demise. According to DA, your present OM is 95% likely to be in > the first 9

Re: against UD+ASSA, part 1

2007-09-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 30/09/2007, Jesse Mazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps it's pretty farfetched, but my motive in thinking along these lines > is not just that I want to see the doomsday argument wrong when applied to > the lifetime of our civilization--it's that the doomsday argument can also > be applie

Re: against UD+ASSA, part 1

2007-09-30 Thread Günther Greindl
Hello all, I have always found these doomsday arguments rather strange (and the mathematics, nice as the equations may be, resting on false premises). Assuming that OM are distributed unevenly, at the moment you are _living_ an OM you can make absolutely no conclusion about where in the distr