Brain-computer interface and quantum robots

2009-09-10 Thread ronaldheld
arXiv.org/abs/0909.1508 I saw the title and thought of what Bruno would make of it. Any thoughts? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Brain-computer interface and quantum robots

2009-09-10 Thread John Mikes
Ronald. I pursue (vaguely) such development and - though have no intention to outguess Bruno's opinion - find it a VERY PRACTICAL (may I call it: e-bio) line. (lineS - plural). Quite amazing results have been so far achieved in this IMO totally initial phase. I can't wait how the

Re: Dreaming On

2009-09-10 Thread David Nyman
2009/9/9 Flammarion peterdjo...@yahoo.com: What you say above seems pretty much in sympathy with the reductio arguments based on arbitrariness of implementation. It is strictly an argument against the claim that computation causes consciousness , as opposed to the claim that mental states

Re: Brain-computer interface and quantum robots

2009-09-10 Thread ronaldheld
I have to agree that I am curious what responses I will get from the frequent posters. I see this as someday being able to say,yes, Doctor. Ronald On Sep 10, 9:17 am, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: Ronald. I pursue (vaguely) such development and -

Re: Brain-computer interface and quantum robots

2009-09-10 Thread Brent Meeker
ronaldheld wrote: arXiv.org/abs/0909.1508 I saw the title and thought of what Bruno would make of it. Any thoughts? The authors write, However, recent studies lead to the conclusion that the human mind is not a classical computer, and, in general, not completely reducible to any kind of

Re: Dreaming On

2009-09-10 Thread Brent Meeker
David Nyman wrote: 2009/9/9 Flammarion peterdjo...@yahoo.com: What you say above seems pretty much in sympathy with the reductio arguments based on arbitrariness of implementation. It is strictly an argument against the claim that computation causes consciousness , as opposed

Re: Brain-computer interface and quantum robots

2009-09-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Sep 2009, at 19:38, Brent Meeker wrote: ronaldheld wrote: arXiv.org/abs/0909.1508 I saw the title and thought of what Bruno would make of it. Any thoughts? The authors write, However, recent studies lead to the conclusion that the human mind is not a classical computer, and, in

Re: Dreaming On

2009-09-10 Thread Brent Meeker
David Nyman wrote: 2009/9/10 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: Yes, I agree. But if we're after a physical theory, we also want to be able to give in either case a clear physical account of their apprehensiveness, which would include a physical justification of why the fine-grained

books on logic/computing

2009-09-10 Thread ronaldheld
I thought that I would start a thread to consolidate some of the books useful in following current and old threads. if people alos want to post key papers here, I do not see a problem with that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

Re: Dreaming On

2009-09-10 Thread David Nyman
2009/9/10 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: But isn't that because the computational in CTM is abstracted away from a context in which there is action and purpose. It's the same problem that leads to the question, Does a rock compute every function? When looking at a physical process