Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-31 Thread meekerdb
On 10/31/2011 11:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Why? Everett shows convincingly that, being a memory machine, when we measure a superposition state, we just entangle ourself with the superposition state, but this differentiate the consciousness/memory of the machine, and she can feel the split.

Re: 3p consequence of cul de sac?

2011-10-31 Thread meekerdb
On 10/31/2011 10:59 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/29/2011 5:59 PM, Nick Prince wrote: [SPK] From what I can tell, cul de sac's would have 3p consequences that would have an effect on the distribution of branches. Maybe we should consider what effect the 'rest of the universe' has on the

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Oct 2011, at 18:13, meekerdb wrote: On 10/31/2011 6:01 AM, Nick Prince wrote: On Oct 31, 5:30 am, meekerdb wrote: On 10/30/2011 5:13 PM, Nick Prince wrote: On Oct 30, 8:56 pm, Russell Standish wrote: My point about the unitary evolution was that the clicking of the Geiger count

Re: 3p consequence of cul de sac?

2011-10-31 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/29/2011 5:59 PM, Nick Prince wrote: [SPK] From what I can tell, cul de sac's would have 3p consequences that would have an effect on the distribution of branches. Maybe we should consider what effect the 'rest of the universe' has on the 1p of the cat. Onward! Stephen [NP] Had a

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-31 Thread meekerdb
On 10/31/2011 6:01 AM, Nick Prince wrote: On Oct 31, 5:30 am, meekerdb wrote: On 10/30/2011 5:13 PM, Nick Prince wrote: On Oct 30, 8:56 pm, Russell Standishwrote: My point about the unitary evolution was that the clicking of the Geiger counter is not a unitary process - and until you

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Oct 2011, at 10:34, benjayk wrote: Nick Prince-2 wrote: This is similar to my speculations in an earlier topic post http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list/browse_thread/thread/4514b50b8eb469c3/c49c3aa24c265a4b?lnk=gst&q=homomorphic#c49c3aa24c265a4b where I suggest that very

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Oct 2011, at 06:20, meekerdb wrote: On 10/30/2011 5:09 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: A common response to the idea of QTI is, Why should I care if I die and someone else in another world who thinks he is me survives? But this objection shows a lack of understanding of consciousness w

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-31 Thread Nick Prince
On Oct 31, 5:30 am, meekerdb wrote: > On 10/30/2011 5:13 PM, Nick Prince wrote: > > > > > On Oct 30, 8:56 pm, Russell Standish  wrote: > > >> My point about the unitary evolution was that the clicking of the > >> Geiger counter is not a unitary process - and until you hear it, you > >> remain i

Re: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation

2011-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Oct 2011, at 06:30, meekerdb wrote: On 10/30/2011 5:13 PM, Nick Prince wrote: On Oct 30, 8:56 pm, Russell Standish wrote: My point about the unitary evolution was that the clicking of the Geiger counter is not a unitary process - and until you hear it, you remain in superposition.