Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2012, at 13:49, ronaldheld wrote: Does nothing mean zero or the empty set in this thread? There are as many notions of nothing/everything that there are notion of things. Nothing can be interpreted in many ways, differently for each theory candidate to be a theory of

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 5, 2012 John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: Is it so hard to understand a word? Yes, the word nothing keeps evolving. Until about a hundred years ago nothing just meant a vacuum, space empty of any matter; then a few years later the meaning was expanded to include lacking any

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread R AM
Some thoughts about nothing: - If nothing has no properties, and a limitation is considered a property, then nothing cannot have any limitations, including the limitation of generating something. Therefore, something may come from nothing. - Given that something exists, it is possible that

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 5, 2012 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: That depends on what you mean by nothing. 1) Lack of matter, a vacuum. 2) Lack of matter and energy 3) Lack of matter and energy and space 4) Lack of matter and energy and space and time. 5) Lack of even the

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 6, 2012 ramra...@gmail.com wrote: There are many ways something can exist, but just one of nothing existing. Therefore, nothing is less likely :-) EXCELLENT! I wish I'd said that; Picasso said good artists borrow but great artists steal, so no doubt some day I will indeed say

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-06 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 05.05.2012 23:34 meekerdb said the following: On 5/5/2012 1:07 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... According to Prof Hoenen, the logic of trinity was at that time basically in the blood. He gave several examples including even Marx. According to Prof Hoenen, the logic in Marx's Capital is the

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread Stephen P. King
On 5/6/2012 1:06 PM, R AM wrote: Some thoughts about nothing: Hi Ricardo, I like these thoughts (as they imply questions!)! - If nothing has no properties, and a limitation is considered a property, then nothing cannot have any limitations, including the limitation of generating

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 6, 1:06 pm, R AM ramra...@gmail.com wrote: Some thoughts about nothing: - If nothing has no properties, and a limitation is considered a property, then nothing cannot have any limitations, including the limitation of generating something. Therefore, something may come from nothing.

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 6, 1:33 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 5, 2012 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: That depends on what you mean by nothing.   1) Lack of matter, a vacuum.   2) Lack of matter and energy   3) Lack of matter and energy and space   4) Lack of

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 06.05.2012 20:04 Stephen P. King said the following: ... [Side note: This is where we start to see that our words can be such to sometimes have only other words as referents and sometimes have actual objects (not words) as referents. (I wish we could get a semiotic theory expert to join us!

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-06 Thread meekerdb
On 5/6/2012 10:51 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 05.05.2012 23:34 meekerdb said the following: On 5/5/2012 1:07 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... According to Prof Hoenen, the logic of trinity was at that time basically in the blood. He gave several examples including even Marx. According to Prof

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-06 Thread Stephen P. King
On 5/6/2012 3:25 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 06.05.2012 20:04 Stephen P. King said the following: ... [Side note: This is where we start to see that our words can be such to sometimes have only other words as referents and sometimes have actual objects (not words) as referents. (I wish we

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-06 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 6, 4:06 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Newton, Boyle, Tyndall, Descarte, Laplace, Kepler,...none of them were from the universities, which were dominated by theology. All of them were still theological thinkers though, as were Bacon, Copernicus, Paracelsus, the Islamic

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-06 Thread meekerdb
On 5/6/2012 5:47 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On May 6, 4:06 pm, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote: Newton, Boyle, Tyndall, Descarte, Laplace, Kepler,...none of them were from the universities, which were dominated by theology. All of them were still theological thinkers though, Theological