Re: Re: Comp, Chance and Necessity, the large and the small

2012-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Craig Weinberg God's preference ? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/20/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-19, 16:35:56 Subject: Re: Comp,

Re: Re: Two possible ways of creating actual objects out of nothing

2012-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Russell Standish I did land on your website or look up your book. You do have some radical assumptions, one of them puzzling to me-- that time is an external variable. External to what ? mind ? the physical world ? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/20/2012 Forever is a long time,

Re: Re: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal Sorry, where are the steps of UD ? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/20/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-19, 09:33:19

Re: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Nov 2012, at 19:46, meekerdb wrote: On 11/19/2012 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: and the math shows that this will include some continuous/analog observable. How does it show that? Intuitively: by dovetailing on each programs coupled with real numbers. Each computations are done

Re: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Nov 2012, at 20:14, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2012/11/19 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net On 11/19/2012 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: and the math shows that this will include some continuous/analog observable. How does it show that? Brent Because the material reality is the sum of

Re: Evolutionary logic Re: Some musings on is/ought and modal logic

2012-11-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2012/11/11 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote: It is an observable fact. is obviously true that if you live in a society where everyone take something as true , no matter what, then it is true for one of its members, you, for example.

Re: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2012, at 14:51, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Sorry, where are the steps of UD ? You can find them here: http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004MARCHALAbstract.html You can download the PDF, and also the unique slide with a diagram for each step, as

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, November 19, 2012 6:27:56 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 02:45:43PM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: What I am asking is why does the idea of a multiverse help explain why any one universe exists in the first place. This could be one of two

optic nerve signals

2012-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Do comp signals have to be real time ? Here is an optic nerve signal, from

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:35, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: And what is it? That I see both Washington and Moscow. No, you would not go that far (and that would contradict what you have already agree on). Bruno Marchal certainly

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2012, at 03:52, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/19/2012 9:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Nov 2012, at 05:03, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/18/2012 8:12 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:48:57PM -0500, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Russell, I agree with this

Re: Evolutionary logic Re: Some musings on is/ought and modal logic

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:02, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2012/11/11 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote: It is an observable fact. is obviously true that if you live in a society where everyone take something as true , no matter what, then it

Re: Evolutionary logic Re: Some musings on is/ought and modal logic

2012-11-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2012/11/20 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:02, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2012/11/11 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote: It is an observable fact. is obviously true that if you live in a society where everyone take

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:39:02AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, November 19, 2012 6:27:56 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: 1) Why a universe, given a multiverse. A universe is the internal (ie 1p) view of the multiverse. Why does a multiverse need an internal view?

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:58:15 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:39:02AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, November 19, 2012 6:27:56 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: 1) Why a universe, given a multiverse. A universe is the internal

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:23:55PM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:58:15 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:39:02AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: Why does a multiverse need an internal view? Especially since our experience

Re: Re: Two possible ways of creating actual objects out of nothing

2012-11-20 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:31:05AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Russell Standish I did land on your website or look up your book. You do have some radical assumptions, one of them puzzling to me-- that time is an external variable. External to what ? mind ? the physical world ?

Re: Evolutionary logic Re: Some musings on is/ought and modal logic

2012-11-20 Thread meekerdb
On 11/20/2012 11:47 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: In the realm of experienced reality, there are no demonstrable absolute and eternal Truth forever and ever. No, but there are lots of local facts of experience. It is based on those we construct models of reality. Brent -- You received this