Re: Long term memory is extra-corporeal

2014-12-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Dec 2014, at 03:43, meekerdb wrote: On 12/25/2014 1:17 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: In paper Forsdyke, D.R. (2009). Samuel Butler and human long term memory: is the cupboard bare? Journal of Theoretical Biology 258(1), 156-164. (see http://post.queensu.ca/~forsdyke/mind01.htm) the

Re: Long term memory is extra-corporeal

2014-12-26 Thread Jason Resch
If the memories aren't in the brain, then what physical causes enable a positive or negative recognition of the photo of a person's face? It seems to me that this would require some extra-physical interaction beyond all known physical laws. If this excess storage area could be tapped, could we

Re: Natural gas: The fracking fallacy

2014-12-26 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: DO you even know what the term “tight oil” means technically? Yes. Tight oil is just another name for shale oil, it's light oil in kerogen rich shale deposits that needs hydraulic fracking

Re: Long term memory is extra-corporeal

2014-12-26 Thread meekerdb
On 12/25/2014 11:45 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: *From:*everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kim Jones *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:46 PM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Long term memory

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-26 Thread zibblequibble
On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:49:12 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: zibble...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Monday, December 22, 2014 10:18:55 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: Have you never heard of, or seen, courage in the face of death? Often taken as the true test of manhood!

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-26 Thread zibblequibble
On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 3:23:56 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: John Clark wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Bruce Kellett bhke...@optusnet.com.au javascript: mailto:bhke...@optusnet.com.au javascript: wrote: I wouldn't fear death even then.

Re: Testing MWI

2014-12-26 Thread zibblequibble
On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 12:15:16 PM UTC, ronaldheld wrote: *arXiv:1412.7352* http://arxiv.org/abs/1412.7352 (cross-list from gr-qc) [*pdf* http://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.7352, *ps* http://arxiv.org/ps/1412.7352, *other* http://arxiv.org/format/1412.7352] Title: Testing the Everett

Re: Long term memory is extra-corporeal

2014-12-26 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Am 26.12.2014 um 19:55 schrieb meekerdb: But to say that DNA provides long term memory seems like an abuse of terminology, making a metaphor into a factual description. DNA provides memory only in that sometimes parts of it get to reproduce. Genes are more persistent units, but their memory

Re: Natural gas: The fracking fallacy

2014-12-26 Thread zibblequibble
On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:12:09 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everyth...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: In the USA oil production rose by more than half a million barrels per day between 2007 and 2011 to the highest

RE: Natural gas: The fracking fallacy

2014-12-26 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: DO you even know what the term “tight oil” means technically? Yes.

Re: Long term memory is extra-corporeal

2014-12-26 Thread meekerdb
On 12/26/2014 11:56 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Am 26.12.2014 um 19:55 schrieb meekerdb: But to say that DNA provides long term memory seems like an abuse of terminology, making a metaphor into a factual description. DNA provides memory only in that sometimes parts of it get to reproduce.

RE: Long term memory is extra-corporeal

2014-12-26 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 10:56 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Long term memory is extra-corporeal On 12/25/2014 11:45 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-26 Thread Kim Jones
On 23 Dec 2014, at 5:46 pm, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Stathis: Perhaps, but some may prefer Hell to oblivion, while others try to kill themselves after a minor setback. It depends on the person. Bruce: An odd notion, that: some people might prefer Hell to Oblivion.

William Stanley Jevons

2014-12-26 Thread John Clark
I recently became aware of a book written by William Stanley Jevons that may strike a responsive cord with some members of this list, here are some quotes: Are we wise in allowing the commerce of this country to rise beyond the point at which we can long maintain it?” We are growing rich and

Re: William Stanley Jevons

2014-12-26 Thread Kim Jones
On 27 Dec 2014, at 12:05 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: I recently became aware of a book written by William Stanley Jevons that may strike a responsive cord with some members of this list, here are some quotes: Are we wise in allowing the commerce of this country to rise

Re: Democracy

2014-12-26 Thread Kim Jones
Democracy is a concept. It can be implemented in various ways. I like Liz's conceptualisation of it as communist-style sharing of astcronomical wealth and resources among the elites with cockroaches and urine for breakfast for the rest of us (that's what prisoners in North Korea get given for

Re: William Stanley Jevons

2014-12-26 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Dec 26, 2014, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Clearly the guy was right. Yes long-continued progress in such a manner is altogether impossible, and that is why the standard of living and total global global economy of the human race reached its peak 50 years after Jevons time

Re: William Stanley Jevons

2014-12-26 Thread Kim Jones
On 27 Dec 2014, at 1:34 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 26, 2014, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Clearly the guy was right. Yes long-continued progress in such a manner is altogether impossible, and that is why the standard of living and total