Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-21 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/20/2011 11:12 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 10/20/2011 7:20 PM, nihil0 wrote: I think most consequentialists, especially utilitarians, consider all sentient beings to have moral status. But *equal* moral status? I cannot believe anyone has ever even attempted to live by such an ethic.

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Oct 2011, at 20:46, meekerdb wrote: On 10/20/2011 11:23 AM, nihil0 wrote: Hi, Here is the abstract of Bostrom's Infinitarian Challenge to Aggregative Ethics Aggregative consequentialism and several other popular moral theories are threatened with paralysis: when coupled with some

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-21 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/21/2011 8:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Oct 2011, at 20:46, meekerdb wrote: On 10/20/2011 11:23 AM, nihil0 wrote: Hi, Here is the abstract of Bostrom's Infinitarian Challenge to Aggregative Ethics Aggregative consequentialism and several other popular moral theories are

Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-20 Thread nihil0
Hi, Here is the abstract of Bostrom's Infinitarian Challenge to Aggregative Ethics Aggregative consequentialism and several other popular moral theories are threatened with paralysis: when coupled with some plausible assumptions, they seem to imply that it is always ethically indifferent what

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-20 Thread meekerdb
On 10/20/2011 11:23 AM, nihil0 wrote: Hi, Here is the abstract of Bostrom's Infinitarian Challenge to Aggregative Ethics Aggregative consequentialism and several other popular moral theories are threatened with paralysis: when coupled with some plausible assumptions, they seem to imply that it

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-20 Thread Jesse Mazer
What about the idea that the choices you make are likely to reflect those of an infinite number of similar individuals? It's sort of like the issue of voting or trying to minimize your energy usage to help the environment, even if your individual choice makes very little difference, if everyone

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-20 Thread nihil0
Thanks for your response. Bostrom considers just the idea you mention in section 4.6 called Class Action. He uses the term YOU to represent all your qualitatively identical duplicates throughout the (Level 1) multiverse. According to the class action selection rule, Even though your actions may

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-20 Thread nihil0
Thanks for your response. Bostrom considers the idea you mention in section 4.6 called Class Action. He uses the term YOU to represent all your qualitatively identical duplicates throughout the (Level 1) multiverse. According to the class action selection rule, Even though your actions may have

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-20 Thread meekerdb
On 10/20/2011 6:37 PM, nihil0 wrote: However, this class action argument assumes that the value-density approach is an acceptable way to measure the value in a world. There are a few problems with the value-density approach. First of all, it seems to give up aggregationism (total

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-20 Thread nihil0
I think most consequentialists, especially utilitarians, consider all sentient beings to have moral status. Utilitarians say an action is morally better to the extent that it produces more well-being in the world. Anyway I would prefer to focus on whether act consequentialism implies that all

Re: Has anyone responded to Bostrom's argument against aggregative ethics?

2011-10-20 Thread meekerdb
On 10/20/2011 7:20 PM, nihil0 wrote: I think most consequentialists, especially utilitarians, consider all sentient beings to have moral status. But *equal* moral status? I cannot believe anyone has ever even attempted to live by such an ethic. Utilitarians say an action is morally better